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    It's just so out of touch. Anyone with any real nefarious intent will not have any incriminating information on their devices anyway.
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    Internal polling must have National up, given the number of hit pieces on Bridges in the last few days.

    I see the Greens are ramping up their drug reform ideas, citing the issues with synthetics. The cynic in me must point out that if the matter means as much to them as they claim it to, they would surely not settled for a meek confidence and supply agreement that renders them rather useless.

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    now is the right time to play hardball with them as well. their PM is weak, the one who'll make a coup in a few months is also weak, and their government is weak. what exactly does the australian PM have to fight with? he has no political capital being just another blow in waiting to be discarded for the next.

    of course the real answer to this is labour/national think a few hundred lives ruined and some deaths isn't worth a political mud slinging match or economic tit for tat with our closest ally, but just for fun the counter argument could be allowing an increasingly insular and winston peterish nation to increasingly treat 'NZers", not matter how tenuous the connection, like they're no different to the refugees they also mistreat is a very dangerous position to put ourselves in.

    if a nation cannot protect it's citizens then it is not a nation. anyone who mistreats the people in your care (in this case even if they're just perceived to be ours) needs to be given a harsh lesson or they will continue to ramp up their transgressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    now is the right time to play hardball with them as well. their PM is weak, the one who'll make a coup in a few months is also weak, and their government is weak. what exactly does the australian PM have to fight with? he has no political capital being just another blow in waiting to be discarded for the next.

    of course the real answer to this is labour/national think a few hundred lives ruined and some deaths isn't worth a political mud slinging match or economic tit for tat with our closest ally, but just for fun the counter argument could be allowing an increasingly insular and winston peterish nation to increasingly treat 'NZers", not matter how tenuous the connection, like they're no different to the refugees they also mistreat is a very dangerous position to put ourselves in.

    if a nation cannot protect it's citizens then it is not a nation. anyone who mistreats the people in your care (in this case even if they're just perceived to be ours) needs to be given a harsh lesson or they will continue to ramp up their transgressions.
    You are just talking about criminals here, what would be the point of having laws if there are no consequences?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    You are just talking about criminals here, what would be the point of having laws if there are no consequences?.
    Well the article shows that it's not just criminals who are being deported. But even if it where, the whole point of the article is that - regardless whether it's strictly legal - exiling somebody from what is essentially their home country and their family is an absurd response for what in a lot of cases has been some fairly minor offending.
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    Meanwhile, it's been amusing watching the National party absolutely tear itself apart over the past couple days. This is a pretty spectacular own goal for Bridges, everybody would've completely forgotten about this by now if he'd just let it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Meanwhile, it's been amusing watching the National party absolutely tear itself apart over the past couple days. This is a pretty spectacular own goal for Bridges, everybody would've completely forgotten about this by now if he'd just let it be.
    Those Ross tweets are insane. Was he drunk? Never seen a politician burn so many Bridges. Oh yes I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    This is a pretty spectacular own goal for Bridges, everybody would've completely forgotten about this by now if he'd just let it be.
    Yep, exactly.

    Meanwhile, Ross has ramped things up again this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    Yep, exactly.

    Meanwhile, Ross has ramped things up again this morning.
    I legitimately just went to the NZC website, because reading "Ross has ramped things up again this morning" made me assume something exciting was happening in domestic cricket.
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