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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    It was just the way seemingly ordinary men could write about committing the most evil acts in such a banal way.

    It's what made studying the Holocaust so difficult intellectually for me, because I couldn't wrap my head around the thought process behind it.

    You read Mein Kampf and it's just clearly the deluded rantings of a madman. Yet said madman was able to commandeer the apparatus of the state and thousands of German citizens to extinguish millions of lives as if they were just a candle flame.

    It's easy to write off Nazism as a bunch of cartoonish supervillains sitting cackling away in their lairs. Photographs of the ear focus on the big hitters - Hitler, Göbbels, Göring, Himmler, Heydrich, Hess etc. But the actions of those men wasn't the real evil of National Socialism. The real evil was the millions of ordinary Germans who were accomplices to the Final Solution, or those who were complicit by doing nothing to stop it.

    That is why their ideas must be opposed and why it is not acceptable to simply hide behind the First Amendment.
    yeah but permits

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    Yeah, Hitler really loved Speer, and vice-versa. Speer's a fascinating example of just how insidious Nazism can be. That such an intelligent, educated, rational person could completely fall for this bullshit under the wrong circumstances is genuinely terrifying.
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    for those interested theres a really great mini series called 'Hitler's Henchmen'


    has episodes dedicated to Speer, Hess, Goebbels, Himmler, Goring and Bormann(who I've set to see mentioned in this thread)


    worth a watch if you're interested in the nazi cabinet
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    also, kind of a brag but i recently nursed a women who met Hitler (I 100% believe her, she is cognitively healthy despite being 93)


    When she was 13 around 36-37, before the War began, you could apparently visit Hitler in Wolf's Lair(or some such place) alongside Goebells and get a photo with them and an autograph. A meet and greet in peacetime. Her mother took her there. She said they were both very polite(of course)


    Really interesting stuff. She also said living under the third reich was far better than living under Stalin(kind of obvious though since she was a pretty blonde aryan women)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    for those interested theres a really great mini series called 'Hitler's Henchmen'


    has episodes dedicated to Speer, Hess, Goebbels, Himmler, Goring and Bormann(who I've set to see mentioned in this thread)


    worth a watch if you're interested in the nazi cabinet
    Yeah I've seen a number of those shows. Very interesting stuff.
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    If they weren't they wouldn't be Nazis
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    Really interesting stuff. She also said living under the third reich was far better than living under Stalin(kind of obvious though since she was a pretty blonde aryan women)
    I think in general that makes sense. The Nazi's insanity lead to essentially all of Germany's critical infrastructure being destroyed, a huge amount of territory lost to Poland, and the death of about 30% of the working age male population. Throw in the fact that I can't imagine that post-war Russia (especially under Stalin) was at all interested in lifting living standards amongst the Hun, and you've got a recipe for a pretty miserable time. It was afterall essentially a slave state. By comparison, the German economy was already recovering pretty well even before Hitler took control in '33, and the massive armament programme that he initiated did do a decent job of jump-starting the economy. #notallnazis
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    These Hitler vs Stalin arguments are like trying to choose who to support in an Arsenal v Liverpool or Manly vs Canterbury game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    These Hitler vs Stalin arguments are like trying to choose who to support in an Arsenal v Liverpool or Manly vs Canterbury game.
    A United fan I know told me that United fans don't hate Arsenal anymore, they've got bigger fish to fry.

    I still hate United though. With all my heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    These Hitler vs Stalin arguments are like trying to choose who to support in an Arsenal v Liverpool or Manly vs Canterbury game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    (.. since she was a pretty blonde aryan women)
    At 93? That was probably a dye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duffer View Post
    A United fan I know told me that United fans don't hate Arsenal anymore, they've got bigger fish to fry.

    I still hate United though. With all my heart.
    I definitely hate Arsenal less, but I still want them to lose just as much because the internet is so funny when they lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shri View Post
    At 93? That was probably a dye.

    it's really weird looking at what is essentially an old ghoul (lovely lady but she has aboslutely been through the wars physically, not a pretty sight) then looking at a photo she produced for me of her as a teen and seeing she was absolutely gorgeous back then


    i turn my head back to this old granny and suddenly i see her in a new, weird light. really humanises her in a surreal way. it's like she's saying to me 'yeah i know im ****ing ugly now but look at what i used to be'
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    it's really weird looking at what is essentially an old ghoul (lovely lady but she has aboslutely been through the wars physically, not a pretty sight) then looking at a photo she produced for me of her as a teen and seeing she was absolutely gorgeous back then
    probably nabbed the photo from the Jewish neighbour she killed
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