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    It doesn't actually follow that way. In the Family Court de facto relationships have the same effect as marriage if the couple has been together for two years, but there are issues wrt superannuation and inheritance which effect same-*** couples because they can't get married. It depends on the jurisdiction and statutory framework relating to those issues.

    Essentially, denying same *** couples the right to marry effects some of their other rights as well, not just being able to affix the married label to them.
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    If I got hit by a bus today I doubt the certificate I signed on my wedding day would be needed to prove I was married to my wife. There'd be photographic and video evidence, years of our personal mail being delivered to the same address, testimony of family and friends, countless text messages, emails etc. If I had a will the case would only be stronger.

    The property issues are fair enough, but I don't see why in those cases you couldn't have similar parameters as the Family Court and simultaneously say "We don't have the right to tell anyone who they can/can't make a life commitment to. Keep records of your life together and have at it folks."
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    Why do you want to have to go through all that though, when you can just produce a copy of a wedding certificate for $30 bucks from Births Deaths and Marriages (but no homo, as it stands atm).

    If you die intestate and you aren't married, the trustees of your superannuation fund have a right to divest your benefits as they see fit exercising reasonable discretion, unless you've specified your beneficiaries to them directly. If you die intestate and you're married, the default position is your assets go to your spouse.

    It's all well and good to say the state shouldn't be involved in marriage, and in the libertarian fantasy world people like to inhabit that all sounds fine. Of course it completely ignores the hundreds if not thousands of years of social mores which have grown up around the institution of marriage itself, and that those mores have themselves been enshrined in laws in most, if not all cultures in one way or another. The great irony is that so many self-proclaimed #freedom warriors want to tell people whether they can or can't marry, whether they can or can't terminate a pregnancy etc etc.

    Basically what it really comes down to is most of these libertarians/ #freedom warriors just want the #freedom to make a buck without any regard for anyone else, and the #freedom to be a **** without consequence, while at the same time proscribing and limiting the #freedom* of others.

    Honestly, libertarianism is as stupid a philosophy as socialism. It is one of great joys in life to see the IPA production line of infantile ****wits mirroring the old campus socialists from my uni days in the 80s and 90s in their fervent adherence to such a deeply flawed philosophy. **** people. **** ethos.

    *not really #freedom, because the only #freedom which counts in their eyes is the freedom for them to act like a **** and get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Why do you want to have to go through all that though, when you can just produce a copy of a wedding certificate for $30 bucks from Births Deaths and Marriages (but no homo, as it stands atm).

    If you die intestate and you aren't married, the trustees of your superannuation fund have a right to divest your benefits as they see fit exercising reasonable discretion, unless you've specified your beneficiaries to them directly. If you die intestate and you're married, the default position is your assets go to your spouse.
    You're talking about someone having to do a bit more work, maybe once in their life. No, I don't even remotely think that's too great a price to pay for having a world in which a government has no authority to tell anyone who they can and can't make a life commitment to.

    As to the rest, quality rant. How you get "freedom only to act like a **** and get away with it, making a buck without regard for anyone else and limiting the freedom of others" from my posting I'll never know.


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    I'm not addressing that comment towards you mate. But how people hold this Shapiro clown up as some sort of wonderful spokesman for freedom when the bloke is advocating stopping a section of society from being able to exercise a free choice to marry seems very odd indeed. If you want complete freedom of choice/ speech/ association/ whatever, then that's fine. But for someone like him to advocate that then turn around and proscribe freedoms for other groups within a community seems very disingenuous on his part, and on the part of those who hold him up as a great voice for freedom and for choice.

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    You're conflating conservatism with libertarianism then.

    Shapiro is a conservative in his personal views and pretty genuinely libertarian regards to the role of government.

    Shapiro On Rubin Report: 'I'm A Radical Individualist' | Daily Wire (youtube link in keeping of the spirit of thread)

    I am essentially a radical individualist in the sense that I think people ought to be treated as individuals, they shouldn’t be treated as part of groups … I’m more of a conservative-libertarian mash-up than anything else: I think the government sucks at everything. Like we’ve talked about same-*** marriage before, I’m personally against same-*** marriage but I don’t think the government has any business in it; I’m personally against smoking marijuana; I don’t think the government has, pretty much, any business in it. If you’re not creating externalities I don’t think that the government has any business messing with you.
    In other words, you and most others here are completely wrong in characterising him as a hardline conservative.
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    I wasn't calling him a conservative, I was perhaps erroneously characterising him as a #freedom warrior.

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    Nah he's a conservative. Maybe a conservatarian, but his conservative leanings are stronger than his libertarian ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Nah he's a conservative. Maybe a conservatarian, but his conservative leanings are stronger than his libertarian ones.
    What do you mean by stronger?

    That quote is explicitly placing his political outlook (Libertarian) ahead of his personal one (Conservative).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausage View Post
    What do you mean by stronger?

    That quote is explicitly placing his political outlook (Libertarian) ahead of his personal one (Conservative).
    Basically I mean that when assessing someone's views, I place someone's personal views as being of foremost importance. Not that one's "political" views are unimportant, it's just that what you think yourself is, for me, the most important thing in assessing what a person believes.
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    Could someone direct me towards some prominent non white male libertarian videos please?
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    While I dislike a lot of their contributors, I really enjoy a lot of VICE's video work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Basically I mean that when assessing someone's views, I place someone's personal views as being of foremost importance. Not that one's "political" views are unimportant, it's just that what you think yourself is, for me, the most important thing in assessing what a person believes.
    Yeah that's fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    Could someone direct me towards some prominent non white male libertarian videos please?
    Why would that be in any way important to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    Could someone direct me towards some prominent non white male libertarian videos please?
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