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    Didn't Periyar say Brahmins should be treated like Jews were treated by Nazis?
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    Statues of people are boring anyway. There should be more statues of animals. Much more interesting and thought-provoking. There used to be a big Sonic the Hedgehog statue in the Galleria in Hatfield and it was great. About the only good thing in the entire town.

    Though doubtless some conscientious soul would find a reason to object to this as well.
    Statues of fictional, mythical people are also legit imho. Bernini's Apollo and Daphne is a wonderful experience to view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ankitj View Post
    Didn't Periyar say Brahmins should be treated like Jews were treated by Nazis?
    I believe his exact words likened the Brahmins to the Jews in terms of control over society and believed a Brahmin version of the Jillumanati theory. That's still obviously terrible.

    Bose was an out and out Nazi, friends with Hitler and was going to join forces with Nazi Germany militarily.

    Gandhi believed the Jews should commit mass suicide in order to guilt the Nazis and serve as an example of the dangers of fascism to the world.

    Point is it's best to assess individuals of the time based on the impact/actions they had in the home country as opposed to the early 20th century version of their worst drunk tweets about WW2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    Point is it's best to assess individuals of the time based on the impact/actions they had in the home country as opposed to the early 20th century version of their worst drunk tweets about WW2.
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    Bose I thought was a kind of precursor to the modern tankie - despised the British so much that he enthusiastically supported anyone against them regardless of what they had in store for his country (most notably the Japanese).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Bose I thought was a kind of precursor to the modern tankie - despised the British so much that he enthusiastically supported anyone against them regardless of what they had in store for his country (most notably the Japanese).
    This is true but he very much affiliated himself with the Nazis to that end and admired the philosophy of fascism.

    “justice, equality, the love, which is the basis of socialism should be combined with the efficiency and the discipline of fascism as it stands in Europe today”. Quote from 1930
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    I believe his exact words likened the Brahmins to the Jews in terms of control over society and believed a Brahmin version of the Jillumanati theory. That's still obviously terrible.

    Bose was an out and out Nazi, friends with Hitler and was going to join forces with Nazi Germany militarily.

    Gandhi believed the Jews should commit mass suicide in order to guilt the Nazis and serve as an example of the dangers of fascism to the world.

    Point is it's best to assess individuals of the time based on the impact/actions they had in the home country as opposed to the early 20th century version of their worst drunk tweets about WW2.
    Bose was just using the opportunity afforded by Axis powers to overthrow Britishers rather than endorse morality of it. I think Periyar had more explicit hate; let me research if he advocated Nazi like action. I get the point about how you assess complex people, but the drunk tweet equivalents do tell you something about what the mindset the individual had.

    As an aside, trust Gandhi to say something like that. He was bit odd with his non-violence philosophy. During one phase of rioting by Muslims against non-Muslims, he also said something to the affect of -- Hindus should not hold a grudge against Muslims because they are after all doing what their faith demands. Basically a version of turn the other cheek taken too far. So much oddity and contradictions in Gandhi's persona! His greatness still lies in uniting the whole country and taking independence movement to each household rather than a few intellectuals and a few rebels.

    Edit: just saw the above post on Bose. So my point on his moral stance is probably not entirely correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    Orwell on Gandhi is good though I don’t agree with everything:

    https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the...ons-on-gandhi/
    Yeah this is pretty good. I think of Gandhi as a sort of ATG propaganda war general. You wouldn't want him in a real war, but that's fine because he wasn't fighting one. You really wouldn't want William Sherman in a propaganda war either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Yeah this is pretty good. I think of Gandhi as a sort of ATG propaganda war general. You wouldn't want him in a real war, but that's fine because he wasn't fighting one. You really wouldn't want William Sherman in a propaganda war either.
    Yep and one of the exceptionally rare ATG propagandists who weren't secretive figures with intricate personal lives behind the scenes but rather derived their strength from just never, ever breaking kayfabe.

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    Don't think Bose liked commie-fascism because of hatred towards British.

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    That was pretty nuanced and wise by Barack Hussein Obama, most wouldn't get it I feel.
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