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    Catalonia right now:




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    Quote Originally Posted by GotSpin View Post
    It's a really weird play from Madrid.

    From what I understand, there was a whole host of issues with the voting itself and I think Madrid may have feared an exaggerated result in favour of independence. A lot of these independence movements are simply cash grabs so that might have played into their decision making.

    Honestly, Madrid should have simply outlaid the political and economical realities of what independence would mean for Catalonia and tell them to get ****ed. Catalonians seem to live in a fantasy land where they think they can gain complete political independence but still retain the economic benefits of being part of Spain.

    This doesn't even get into the argument that the lucky state, who directly benefited from Franco, should do its fair share to help out the less fortunate southern states
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijed View Post
    Now where have we seen this before...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijed View Post
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    I was thinking Scotland as well to an extent
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    I actually thought it was about Scotland at first
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    To my knowledge this is the first time that the word is being used in a constructive political sense in more than 30 years.

    Who’d have thought that the Germans would be at the vanguard of progressive thought and ahead of the Australians, British, Anericans, French, and just about everyone else.

    Germans' interest in 'Heimat' grows amid globalisation, migration fears

    Berlin: Most Germans are wary of anything that smacks of nationalism given their Nazi history but the concept of "Heimat" (homeland) is enjoying a renaissance driven by rising anxiety about migration and globalisation.

    President Frank-Walter Steinmeier used the resonant word 18 times in marking the 27th anniversary of German reunification on Tuesday, saying the nation needed honest dialogue about immigration after taking in over a million migrants since 2015......

    ....Christian Schuele, whose book Heimat: A Phantom Pain was published this spring, says the trend and support for far-right parties is driven by a sense of loss of national identity as immigration has surged, especially for those whose towns have shrivelled and where local traditions have died out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Who’d have thought that the Germans would be at the vanguard of progressive thought and ahead of the Australians, British, Anericans, French, and just about everyone else.
    Ummmm, everyone? They're far more progressive than all of those countries and have been for a long time. They have far more progressive immigration and economic policy than all of those countries, and this is reflected by their powerhouse economy and excellent societal relations in comparison to the French, British, Australian and American counterparts.

    Not only have their economically and socially liberal policies given them a strong economy, they've also fostered much more robust social safety net and have been able to deliver social policies the others would scarcely dream of such as free university and a much more reasonable cost of living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Ummmm, everyone? They're far more progressive than all of those countries and have been for a long time. They have far more progressive immigration and economic policy than all of those countries, and this is reflected by their powerhouse economy and excellent societal relations in comparison to the French, British, Australian and American counterparts.

    Not only have their economically and socially liberal policies given them a strong economy, they've also fostered much more robust social safety net and have been able to deliver social policies the others would scarcely dream of such as free university and a much more reasonable cost of living.
    Haha yeah, one of the things that make the Nazi era so shocking is that Germany was the cradle of European culture for a long time.

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    I read that as watson implying that nationalism is the vanguard of progressivism, tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Ummmm, everyone? They're far more progressive than all of those countries and have been for a long time. They have far more progressive immigration and economic policy than all of those countries, and this is reflected by their powerhouse economy and excellent societal relations in comparison to the French, British, Australian and American counterparts.

    Not only have their economically and socially liberal policies given them a strong economy, they've also fostered much more robust social safety net and have been able to deliver social policies the others would scarcely dream of such as free university and a much more reasonable cost of living.
    Yeah it's one of those countries that the anti-government crowd have to pretend doesn't exist to sustain their ideology.

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    if catalonia gets independence does that mean we have to use another track for the spanish GP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Yeah it's one of those countries that the anti-government crowd have to pretend doesn't exist to sustain their ideology.
    And vice versa, to be honest. The socialists don't have much to stand on either when it's mainly liberal economics that has delivered for them.

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