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    Man, we all like to talk about how, well, Trump-y Trump is but Erdogan really still sets the standard in that regard. Complete loon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Man, we all like to talk about how, well, Trump-y Trump is but Erdogan really still sets the standard in that regard. Complete loon.
    Rutte is trying to takesome support of Wilders with this saga, very interesting to see how he handles this. Wilders will be loving it however.

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    Erdogan could do with a few bullets to his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    Erdogan could do with a few bullets to his head.
    Careful, the Turkish govt could notice this post and demand that you be prosecuted for it (no joke)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Careful, the Turkish govt could notice this post and demand that you be prosecuted for it (no joke)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    Major trollling by Erdogan there. I might put a request in to the moderators to get him Banned for 6 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    Rutte is trying to takesome support of Wilders with this saga, very interesting to see how he handles this. Wilders will be loving it however.
    The two of them had a debate a few hours ago. Nothing special, apart from Rutte firmly stating (again) he will NOT form a coalition with Wilders.

    Dutch elections are far less exciting than many foreign (as well as many Dutch) media want to tell us. It's very unlikely that Wilders will win more than 25 (out of 150) seats. And absolutely no other party will even try to from a coalition with him. So, we will probably end up having a centre-right / balanced coaltion. Not an easy formation though.....
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    You have to wonder if Erdogan knows how gormless he sounds by crying Nazi when his attempt to cause a revolt in another country miserably fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stapel View Post
    The two of them had a debate a few hours ago. Nothing special, apart from Rutte firmly stating (again) he will NOT form a coalition with Wilders.

    Dutch elections are far less exciting than many foreign (as well as many Dutch) media want to tell us. It's very unlikely that Wilders will win more than 25 (out of 150) seats. And absolutely no other party will even try to from a coalition with him. So, we will probably end up having a centre-right / balanced coaltion. Not an easy formation though.....
    I have money on Rutte's mob to get the most seats, would you recommend me topping up on that bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    I have money on Rutte's mob to get the most seats, would you recommend me topping up on that bet?
    It's where my money would be!

    The point is, even if Wilders' lot gain more seats than Rutte, Rutte (VVD, conservative liberals) will still form a coalition and stay PM. Unless one of the other likely coalition partners (CDA (christian democrats), D66 (progressive liberals), GreenLeft) will gain more seats than Rutte, but I don't think that will happen. Lots of speculation on it though! But in the end, this will only have impact on which party will bring forward the MP. Not so much on the coalition itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    I have money on Rutte's mob to get the most seats, would you recommend me topping up on that bet?
    Fuming I did not put more money on him now,pretty comfortable win for Rutte in the end despite all eyes on Wilders.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...election-nears

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    Enormous turnout, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Enormous turnout, apparently.
    Over 80% from all accounts.

    Its another election where the betting industry and to a lesser extent polling has somewhat failed.

    Hopefully it should be a reality check to those who rather naively assumed anyone that you could define as hard right is not a cert to win power because "Brexit and Trump~"

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    I don't think polling has "failed" in any of the last few elections, except possibly in the 2015 UK general election. Miles off in the French primary too, although that's a really tough one to forecast. Public polls are usually pretty frank about what constitutes a reasonable margin of error, and they've generally been within it.

    There's no way of telling whether a political betting market is failing or not. The favourite losing definitely isn't a betting market failure.

    Political gambling is quite a small market so I wouldn't expect it to be efficient, it's definitely possible to give it too much respect. I like them being reported anyway, purely because they're probabilistic, which is always better than random pundits saying "this will happen" then keeping their jobs when it doesn't.
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