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    The French really do this protesting malarkey better than anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andmark View Post
    Was Macron withdrawing the diesel tax a bad precedent? Like by doing that, he's implied (unintentionally) that these protests can work.
    I'm not sure. France places great importance on holding politicians to account in representing "the people" so to speak, for obvious historical reasons.

    The trade off is populism as seen here but I think that's the trade off that they're willing to make, in contrast with, for example, the US culture of simply accepting that certain figures such as the president can make decisions un-democratically without expecting rebuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    I'm not sure. France places great importance on holding politicians to account in representing "the people" so to speak, for obvious historical reasons.

    The trade off is populism as seen here but I think that's the trade off that they're willing to make, in contrast with, for example, the US culture of simply accepting that certain figures such as the president can make decisions un-democratically without expecting rebuff.
    It's a good underlying culture to have given that it means the masses aren't simply apathetic and are willing to do something if things go badly. The current situation will eventually calm down and that culture will remain, although the tax being put back may still prove to be a bad precedent depending on how things go in the short and medium term.
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    The person who passed this 2008 yellow vest law, requiring all motorists to have one in their boot, might be slightly regretting it about now.


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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-...rious/10713710

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    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/...0115-0023.html

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    There's lunatic, and then there's "the Enlightenment was a mistake" level of lunatic:

    https://www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/20...e-13-2019.html

    When did this train fall off the rail?

    I think one has to go back to the principles of the French Revolution which are equality, liberty, and fraternity. They have led to the two major emancipation movements — socialism and liberalism — and both are fundamentally flawed. The derailment, in turn, has come in waves. Modernism, a renewal of the radical elements in the French Revolution, which kicked in right after the First World War, set in motion yet another wave of mistakes. And then came the '60s. So, there have been several moments in the past two centuries.

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    the problem of forming politics from aesthetics and ideology, right there.

    Baudet is genuinely scary but he's unlikely to get political power. It could be good for NL long term as he explicitly draws the lines back to cultured academic racism, which everyone thought was stamped out and that racism was now the preserve of the uncouth lower classes and the rural Reformed backwaters. Turns out it wasn't.
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    Could they have thought of a better word for the phenomenon that oikophobic? Sounds like a something related to a farm animal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausage View Post
    Could they have thought of a better word for the phenomenon that oikophobic? Sounds like a something related to a farm animal.
    No, his whole appeal is badly mangled Greco-Latin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magrat Garlick View Post
    No, his whole appeal is badly mangled Greco-Latin.
    He basically sounds like he really, really, really wants to be an absolute monarch.
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    Possibility for a translation on that? (To lazy to go google translate atm).
    "The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they’ve found it."

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    i want to be caliph in place of the caliph.

    Read Iznogoud, it's actually quite decent
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