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    Quote Originally Posted by Indipper View Post
    That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
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    Does a hint that lobbyist laws are not the same as authoritarian rule anger you that much? Surely the UK has its share.

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    In seriousness, I probably do have a different interpretation (rather than definition) of authoritarian than you (and most round here) but that being said, I’ve seen plenty of people not remotely like minded to me citing this as authoritarian.

    De facto censorship

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    Point taken,


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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    De facto censorship
    In all seriousness how is this censorship? Or is all copyright censorship? Or do you think this has nothing to do with copyright/intellectual property? I reiterate I do not like this law either, but I would like to know what distinguishes it from most copyright/intellectual property laws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    In all seriousness how is this censorship? Or is all copyright censorship? Or do you think this has nothing to do with copyright/intellectual property? I reiterate I do not like this law either, but I would like to know what distinguishes it from most copyright/intellectual property laws?
    Maybe not all copyright, but intellectual property laws being used by powerful entities (as well as governments) to protect their own interests and control the spread of information is pretty commonplace, and it often verges into blatant censorship. It's why many libertarians are at a minimum deeply sceptical of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Maybe not all copyright, but intellectual property laws being used by powerful entities (as well as governments) to protect their own interests and control the spread of information is pretty commonplace, and it often verges into blatant censorship. It's why many libertarians are at a minimum deeply sceptical of them.
    I'm not a fan of copyright/intellectual property for the reasons you give. I can understand how 'creators' need to be awarded for their work but that is generally not what actually happens, in my mind at least.

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    https://twitter.com/NYTScience/statu...933839365?s=19

    Italy I think is just a broken country. Remember when they tried to jail seismologists for not predicting an earthquake?

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    Just as an aside, my understanding was more that they weren't convicted for failing to predict the earthquake (limits on the available science and all that) but the extent to which they were responsible as agents of the public, the question being whether their statutory obligations were fair/reasonable/just/etc.. That's what was struck down as far as the scientists go but one government guy was still convicted. And I'm sure they did do some time behind bars too as it all unfolded over years.

    Also, Italy really is broken. So, ya.

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    Merkel suffers another election setback in key German state of Hesse | The Guardian

    This is the state I live in. Even the Hessen lefties aren’t immune to the protest vote effect.

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    That seems like another result which won't produce a viable coalition.

    Guessing all AfD voters are from sleepy Dorfs who last saw a Turk in 1976.
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    Merkel to step down

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    As party leader. Not necessarily as BK

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    Showing my ignorance and with Merkel stepping down. Is this all a hangover form the immigration stuff last year? Or is this about bigger issues I have no idea about in Germany. I am generally interested because Germany has become one of my favourites to try get a job following my PhD.

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