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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTaylorsBox View Post

    He'd have had of a moral high ground in 2020 if he did not endorse this clown, but this is such short term thinking from him.

    But heh, if Cruz wants to sabotage any run in the future for the presidency, then he is more than welcome to.

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    didn't actually say who to vote for tbf
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    I don't even think Cruz is going to vote for him.
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    I don't think that it matters too much what Cruz says or does now as Clinton has all but won the election according to how the polls are trending.

    Sunday nights 'Town Hall style' debate will suit Trump more, and his base support has stubbornly remained at just over 44 points, but I can't see the election being in much doubt short of a major Clinton howler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    I don't think that it matters too much what Cruz says or does now as Clinton has all but won the election according to how the polls are trending.

    Sunday nights 'Town Hall style' debate will suit Trump more, and his base support has stubbornly remained at just over 44 points, but I can't see the election being in much doubt short of a major Clinton howler.
    The majority of pundits think the 'Town Hall' style won't suit Trump at all. He'll very likely end up getting a bit defensive with just some random Joe and will look petty.
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    He also just finished a Town Hall-style debate and left after 30 minutes of softball questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I don't even think Cruz is going to vote for him.
    This should be a completely unlaughable thing to do though.

    'Our side' and 'their side' and that's it on every single issue is exactly how we got into this shitpile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    This should be a completely unlaughable thing to do though.
    Yeah, I didn't find it funny until he started campaigning for him (the sad photo of him on the phone doing so has been removed from RTB's link now I think, but it was what I was reacting to). Campaigning for someone you're not voting for is pretty funny regardless of which 'side' you're on, unless it's only because you can't vote.

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    It's not funny, just sad and more than a little pathetic...

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    Could be wrong, but pretty sure Trump was in his sixties when this conversation was recorded




    Also Wikileaks just leaked 2000 emails.

    What an election!

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    do you have a link to the wikileaks story? the state dept released 75 emails but i am not seeing the wikileaks story...assange and/or putin probably felt trump needed all the help he can get...
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    It all a bit unclear at this stage, but there seems to be a trail of money that leads from the former Ukraine Government to the 'Podesta Group' via John Manafort. John Podesta is Clinton's current campaign chairman, and Manafort worked for Trump until he was dumped last August after Trump's campaign re-shuffle.


    Wikileaks releases over 2,000 emails from Clinton campaign chair

    The internet whistleblowing group Wikileaks released over 2,000 emails involving Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. The release comes the same day the State Department published 350 emails previously deleted from Clinton's private server......Wikileaks said Podesta is a long-term associate of the Clintons and served as Bill Clinton’s chief of staff from 1998 to 2001.

    In August, the AP revealed that while Donald Trump’s campaign chair Paul Manafort worked for Ukraine’s former government, he funneled some $2.2 million in cash to two Washington lobbying firms, including the Clinton-connected Podesta Group.

    Ukraine’s current government, which goes back to the US-backed February 2014 coup that overthrew President Viktor Yanukovich, has claimed that Manafort had pocketed more than $12 million as a lobbyist and consultant for the “pro-Russian regime.”

    
Between 2012 and 2014, Manafort and his business associate Rick Gates steered at least $1.13 million in lobbying fees to the Podesta Group Inc. and another $1.07 million to Mercury LLC, AP reported on Thursday.

    The money came from the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a nonprofit “governed by a board that initially included parliament members” from the ruling Party of Regions, according to AP.

    The founder and chairman of the Podesta Group is Tony Podesta – brother of John Podesta, Bill Clinton’s former chief of staff and current campaign chairman for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. Mercury is headed by Vin Weber, a former congressman and adviser to 2012 Republican candidate Mitt Romney.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/361990-clinto...ils-wikileaks/

    All this sort of stuff does remind me of the TV series, 'House of Cards' - both the British and American versions - where art imitates life.
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