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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil View Post
    right, and if he addresses it personally, it has to be accepted as the truth right?
    No, I was pointing out that he did address that question.

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    pretty much all politicians lie compulsively, bernie sanders and to a large extent joe biden are rarities in the political arena, surely you understand that?
    Of course all politicians spin things, they wouldn't last in politics if they didn't. But I can't remember a more blatant liar than her (Trump comes a close 2nd). I mean how she could continue lying about Comey's comments when everything he said was on public record was just jaw-dropping stuff.

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    the past 3-4 secretaries of state have used their private emails to communicate about state business, yes clinton's was the only situation that was attacked
    This is such a cop-out, 1) they didn't have private servers in their basements, 2) Powell pioneered email use at that govt level, so was very much in it's infancy 3) Powell didn't lie about the number of devices he used or that he never sent or received anything confidential on his personal email & 4 ) It turns out she lied that the state dept gave her approval, it was her that instructed people. Really clutching at straws to try to compare that to Powell, but I know that's her narrative, nice to see you've bought it, hook line and sinker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Let him into the debates and he'll try, we promise.
    Twitter seems impressed with their efforts on CNN tonight which is a good thing.

    Unlikely to get in the debate though surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil View Post
    ...the fact that you believe everything the repubs throw at her as absolute truth just tells me that you just fell for those storylines without much critical thinking...




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    I can throw that back at you in believing the Dems narrative.

    You asked if I'm on the right... Politically speaking, I'm fairly center.. I'm with the liberals when it comes to the importance of the separation of church and state, I'm not a fan of religions interfering in the public space. I'm liberal of a few social issues, although I'm not a fan of SJW, and this notion that if you claim you've been victimized, that means that you get to shut everybody else up, I should point that out. And I'm right on a few issues when it comes to less govt interference.

    That said, there's very little difference between the left and right these days in American politics when it comes to actual policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    Twitter seems impressed with their efforts on CNN tonight which is a good thing.

    Unlikely to get in the debate though surely?
    Officially he needs to poll at 15%; he's polling between 7% and 12% at the moment. There will probably be a bump after his Town Hall thing, and if he's really close but not quite there they may just let him in anyway. He's a chance of being included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    I can throw that back at you in believing the Dems narrative.

    You asked if I'm on the right... Politically speaking, I'm fairly center.. I'm with the liberals when it comes to the importance of the separation of church and state, I'm not a fan of religions interfering in the public space. I'm liberal of a few social issues, although I'm not a fan of SJWs, and this notion that if you claim you've been victimized, that means that you get to shut everybody else up, I should point that out. And I'm right of a few issues when it comes to less govt interference.

    That said, there's very little difference between the left and right these days in American politics when it comes to actual policies.
    This post is Reddit: the political opinion.

    "Both sides have the same policies" is such a bad opinion and I'm amazed that people still believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTaylorsBox View Post
    This post is Reddit: the political opinion.

    "Both sides have the same policies" is such a bad opinion and I'm amazed that people still believe it.
    Much less differences that it was traditionally, with the notable exception of Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTaylorsBox View Post
    I'm amazed that people still believe it.
    I amazed people still say things like "Hillary just sent an email, it's no big deal", she was only Secretary of State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    Much less differences that it was traditionally, with the notable exception of Reagan.
    Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump - Candidates Comparison

    There are very few matters of either social or economic policy on which Clinton and Trump are in agreement. The main one that I could find is that they both think Marijuana is a gateway drug.
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    But that just shows Trump is not one of the *spooky ghost voice* establishment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump - Candidates Comparison

    There are very few matters of either social or economic policy on which Clinton and Trump are in agreement.
    The big policy disagreement naturally being whether to open the seventh seal and usher in the apocalypse
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTaylorsBox View Post
    But that just shows Trump is not one of the *spooky ghost voice* establishment!
    Lol RTB, no he's a fascist who's going to nuke the world within 24 hours if he takes office. You're reading the wrong narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Officially he needs to poll at 15%; he's polling between 7% and 12% at the moment. There will probably be a bump after his Town Hall thing, and if he's really close but not quite there they may just let him in anyway. He's a chance of being included.
    Trump in normal courses of events would not want him on stage, as PEWS's boy, if he does well, will pick up votes from independents and republicans in the first instance.

    However if the Golden Girl's lead grows then he would want a natural ally on stage to tag team against her.

    If we see it come to point where Trump makes a comment supporting Johnson's inclusion in the debates then we will know D Trump has become a bit desperate.

    Hope I explained that clearly.
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    It's time for Republicans to consider the Gary Johnson option - Vox

    @PEWS here you go - now don't say I never do you any favours

    This article makes a view that if Donald continues to attack greiving mothers then Johnson will become the conservative choice. His 7% polling numbers are currently the highest by an independent since Ross Perot in 1992.

    Apparently with each Trump gaffe Johnson will go higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    It's time for Republicans to consider the Gary Johnson option - Vox

    @PEWS here you go - now don't say I never do you any favours

    This article makes a view that if Donald continues to attack greiving mothers then Johnson will become the conservative choice. His 7% polling numbers are currently the highest by an independent since Ross Perot in 1992.

    Apparently with each Trump gaffe Johnson will go higher.
    Perfectly logical theory, although sadly up until now Trump's cringe-worthy comments haven't really hampered his poll numbers. Will be interesting if that changes in the general, particularly with independent voters.

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