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    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/09/d...ntial-election

    Sneer at the man sure, but if Trump is worried about socialism in 2020 then maybe smearing everyone as socialist is losing its power?

    If Bernie could improve his numbers with the oldies I'd be certain he'd smash Trump in 2020.

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    California attacking the gig economy is so ****ing stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    Looks like he is somewhat bottling his criticism of Biden because as a mainstream Dem winning is not cool and he has an eye on becoming VP down the line.

    Going after Biden's memory and whether he is mentally able to do this job is not cruel as their is worrying signs there and he will be over 80 once his first term is completed.

    However I do wonder if any of the front runners have the courage to do it, because it would mean much from them rather than an also ran. Warren and Sanders will have to go there because otherwise he is going to sleepwalk his way to the nomination.

    Imagine a debate with Biden and Trump? ****ing hell the absolute state of it.
    It's telling that the media has generally been critical of his behavior towards Poor Ol' Joe even though his mental faculties are nearly as bad as Trump's. It's clear as day so it's not like journalists are missing these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    The moment Yang comes up against a proper conservative they’ll just start calling him a communist and he’ll get slaughtered. His ideas are too easy to lazily paint as something else. They’ll call it welfare and handouts and point out how some Mexican Black Gay Illegal Immigrant would also get the money and every person over the age of 50 in the USA will open up their bible and kneel down in front of their portrait of Ronald Reagan and pray Yangs evil communist ways away.
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    That isn’t what I’m saying at all. It doesn’t matter what conservatives say, it matters if the voting public is able to discern any veracity in the claims. Joe Punter is not going to have a hope in hell of seeing how a UBI is different from social welfare and that’s partly through Yangs campaign not finding a way to translate the concept to the widest of publics.

    Sanders falls into the trap also because as passionate as he is, he’s not very good at branding his form of politics as something that isn’t “unamerican”. The current crop of Dem candidates that are openly borrowing from Bernie are doing a better job of approaching that than he is, despite in most instances being more or less advocating for the same policies.

    I thought the Maduro question Bernie was asked was a great example of it. It was a fantastic opportunity for him to explain the ways that his brand of democratic socialism differs from the horror stories America generally fixates upon. But all he did was name check Scandinavian countries and repeat his core policies, it’s just utterly weak sauce and isn’t that far away from “Trump-esque” appealing to your own base.
    all this is only proof america is a prank country though, and that ultimately they'll get the candidates they deserve while the chinese economic influence empire continues to expand.
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    I wouldn't give up all hope on America, they're hampered by having an utterly stupid political system that they're taught from youth is the greatest in the world and not to question it. But there is genuinely ways for transformative ideas and policies to be communicated to the American public, its just a lot more black and white in America.
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    I just reckon Yang isn't particularly good at (or perhaps interested in) conveying his ideas to a wider audience beyond the gimmick of #freemoney. And that Sanders is probably the product of having to have been a "radical" within the American political machine that 100 years into his political career he doesn't have the temperament anymore to explain his ideas to someone that doesn't already halfway agree with him.

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    biden is senile but check this out:



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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
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    WHY did anyone think voting machines were a good idea. They're the most obviously dumb idea in the history of democracy. Anyone who even considered them should be put down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    WHY did anyone think voting machines were a good idea. They're the most obviously dumb idea in the history of democracy. Anyone who even considered them should be put down.
    Why is technology somehow worse than not using the technology. Known fact the more people involved the more likely the ****-up. Of course the designer and programmer should have his arse kicked (you know the person involved!).
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    Voting machines are used in India. Far as I know, they were a major improvement over the rampant lawlessness of non-machine times. But the lawlessness bit is obviously not true for the US
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    Yang is polling 7% in California now. That's his highest so far in any State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weldone View Post
    Yang is polling 7% in California now. That's his highest so far in any State.
    Thanks for the update
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