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    The opioid crisis is principally prescription drugs last I checked. Clearly has to be the fault of non-white people somehow though.
    do you think people will be allowed to make violins?
    who's going to make the violins?

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    Anyway, rip in peace this week's news cycle

    I can't say I've seen too much about Pompeo which is impressive (he seems to think the CIA's problem was being insufficiently aggressive, of all things) but at least it wasn't John ****ing Bolton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    The opioid crisis is principally prescription drugs last I checked. Clearly has to be the fault of non-white people somehow though.
    yeah people start on the pills because they have a bad back and their stupid doctor has put them onto ****ing opioids and so they get hooked and then they go off to heroin because it's cheaper
    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blo...cricket-legacy

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    dreamland by sam quinones is an essential read although he published it right as fentanyl was making waves


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    dreamland by sam quinones is an essential read although he published it right as fentanyl was making waves
    luv 2 casually prescribe and sell drugs which are 100 times stronger than morphine en masse

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    all because of one study that said "hey we looked into the numbers and actually opioids given to patients aren't addictive"

    (because they were given to people who were in hospital and were very close to dying. turns out giving them to people at home all week will lead to addiction. shocking huh)
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    The crisis is so much worse than stats on numbers of deaths would suggest. The effect on a family of having even one opioid addict is horrifying. I think one of the reasons it doesn’t make more news is because the details are so unbelievably depressing that the public couldn’t handle hearing about it all the time.
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    Genuinely surprised by the Tillerson firing.
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    Fentanyl is nasty too because over time, the gap between painkilling dose and fatal dose closes to almost nothing so it's ****ing easy to overdose eventually. It's just bad, bad ****.

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    Clearly this didn't work that well for Rex

    The Tillerson, Mattis, Mnuchin Suicide Pact
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    A recount in a Trump +25 district that literally won't exist in less than a year's time is exactly the sort of scenario American politics deserves
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    yeah this is headed for a recount with a tiny lamb lead with 99% of the votes counted...

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    Either way, Lamb ran a smart race. Democrats in other Republican 2016 districts should take note.

    Dems would do well to have more Lambs and less Nancy Pelosi & Elizabeth Warren types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Attempting to blame China for the opioid crisis is pathetic on so many levels.

    From the DEA

    FAQ’s-Fentanyl and Fentanyl-Related Substances

    Q. Why is fentanyl spreading so fast?
    A. One of the main reasons for the rapid spread of fentanyl is that it offers a high profit margin for traffickers. For example, traffickers can typically purchase a kilogram of fentanyl powder for a few thousand dollars from a Chinese supplier, transform it into hundreds of thousands of pills, and sell the counterfeit pills for millions of dollars in profit. If a particular batch has two milligrams of fentanyl per pill, approximately 500,000 counterfeit pills can be manufactured from one kilogram of pure fentanyl. According to DEA reporting these pills containing fentanyl or fentanyl-related compounds are being sold at retail at prices between $10 and $20 per pill in U.S. illegal drug markets (depending on the purity of the fentanyl and the dosage).

    Q. Where is illegal fentanyl made?
    A. Fentanyl is often manufactured in overseas clandestine laboratories and then transported across the Southwest border or sent via mail. Both Mexico and China are major source countries for fentanyl and fentanyl-related compounds.

    Q. How is fentanyl being trafficked?
    A. The supply lines for fentanyl and heroin are often essentially the same.* Heroin traffickers who travel to the Southwest border to purchase heroin now also purchase fentanyl from the same Southwest border sources of supply.

    Q. How is fentanyl being sold and used?
    A. The ways in which fentanyl is being abused and the different compounds and formulations in which it is found are constantly evolving, posing new threats to those that use them illicitly.**

    In the past fentanyl was typically mixed with other opioids, such as heroin, but that is not always the case today. Fentanyl can also be injected, snorted/sniffed, smoked, taken orally by pill or tablet, or spiked onto blotter paper.

    Illicitly produced fentanyl is sold alone or in combination with heroin and other substances and has been pressed into pills, and used to mimic pharmaceutical drugs such as oxycodone.

    What are some common street names for fentanyl?
    Apache, China Girl, China Town, Dance Fever, Friend, Goodfellas, Great Bear, He-Man, Jackpot, King Ivory, Murder 8, and Tango & Cash......

    https://www.dea.gov/druginfo/fentanyl-faq.shtml

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    From the New York Times....

    Online Sales of Illegal Opioids from China Surge in U.S.

    WASHINGTON — Nearly $800 million worth of fentanyl pills were illegally sold to online customers in the United States over two years by Chinese distributors who took advantage of internet anonymity and an explosive growth in e-commerce, according to a Senate report released on Wednesday.

    A yearlong Senate investigation found that American buyers of the illegal drugs lived mostly in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. The Chinese sellers primarily used Bitcoin, the digital currency, as their preferred method of payment and shipped the drugs through other countries to reduce the risk of the opioids being seized by customs officials, Senate investigators said.


    The 104-page bipartisan report was produced by the Senate Homeland Security Committee’s investigations arm. It was requested by Senators Rob Portman, Republican of Ohio and the panel’s chairman, and Tom Carper of Delaware, the committee’s top Democrat. They will discuss the report’s findings in a hearing set for Thursday and are expected to press law enforcement and Postal Service officials for details on plans to combat the growing opioid shipments.

    China has a large pharmaceutical industry and hosts thousands of illegal labs that manufacture counterfeit and illicit drugs, Senate investigators said. The country has long been identified by American officials as the source of much of the illegal opioids flowing into the United States.....

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/u...l-opioids.html



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