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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    a parliamentary democracy isn't the ultimate arbiter of its own laws.
    Is the ECJ above the Supreme Court? I've never fully understood the relationship between the two. Maybe sledger can explain.

    Though in any case, surely the right to leave the EU makes Parliament the ultimate arbiter of its own laws, even if it chooses not to exercise that right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Is the ECJ above the Supreme Court? I've never fully understood the relationship between the two. Maybe sledger can explain.

    Though in any case, surely the right to leave the EU makes Parliament the ultimate arbiter of its own laws, even if it chooses not to exercise that right.
    That's probably technically correct, but as we've discovered it's the mother of all bastards to attempt to exercise it.

    In practical terms being a member means sacrificing some sovereignty of law making.
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    TBH looking at it from a pure democracy POV, if the EU parliament worked how a normal one does, it wouldn't be so bad (in that respect). The European Commission absolutely stinks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    Yup. As someone who's supported Labour for most of my adult life, I really couldn't bear to see Corbyn and his cronies in power. JC vs Johnson really is no sort of choice for what's supposed to be a mature democracy. It probably won't affect me too much, but I fear for my children's future.
    Likewise - I wouldn't vote for a Corbyn led Labour Party, nor indeed one led by anyone else, except Tom Watson - Keir Starmer is close to tolerable, but a lawyer, a weakness in itself


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Yup. It's a staggering piece of double think for anyone to even suggest that asking the public's opinion is somehow anti-the public's will.
    Well yes. That's a thoroughly sensible position. Problem is, good sense doesn't seem to mean anything now.

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    So it's Johnson Vs **** to see who can **** us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    My money's on Gove to sneak through the field and win it by a nose.
    Oh well, looks like I backed the wrong horse in this race. Although at this point it's looking more like a steeplechase for 3-legged donkeys.

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    I wonder what Mark Field's views on milkshake throwing are
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    Wow, this is exactly, what I was wondering. Why have so many reasonable people voted to leave, given that the leave-campaign was led by idiots. Rant in 5-4-3-2-1....

    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    I personally voted to leave because I don't believe in a federal Europe and it's never sat well that a parliamentary democracy isn't the ultimate arbiter of its own laws.
    There is no federal Europe.....
    The other argument is, imho, very strong. The EU needs change on that!

    I rather fancifully thought we could get a deal where we had access to the EU in exchange for the free movement of its goods and citizens, but our highest courts wouldn't have to bend the knee to Brussels. It turns out I was a wee bit optimistic.
    Optimistic? Or just ignorant? Or deluded?
    Also, this "bending the knee to Brussels". To me, it sounds like an emotional expression, rather than a serious analysis of European laws annoying the British.
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    Wouldn’t do the Poms any harm to be deprived of determining their own destiny, given they spent 200 plus years depriving a lot of other people the chance to do just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Wouldn’t do the Poms any harm to be deprived of determining their own destiny, given they spent 200 plus years depriving a lot of other people the chance to do just that.
    I mean all the people involved in that are dead but carry on

    Edit - well that’s not quite true but you know
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    Should be made to pay reparations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Should be made to pay reparations
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    I mean all the people involved in that are dead but carry on

    Edit - well that’s not quite true but you know
    Not to mention how everyone affected turned out okay...
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    Another by-election coming up, this time in Brecon and Radnoshire. Lib Dems are big favourites to pick up the seat, though it could also fall to the Brexit Party. Either would cut the government's majority to two.



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