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    Yeah, that's all well and good, but:

    A) It is not even close to being in the EU's interests to do that;

    B) Some sort of temporary exit from the EU, which appears to be what you are implying, would be even more chaotic and ridiculous than the current farce; and

    C) Any PM with a fairly convincing majority who voluntarily offers to let other parties into government is losing a vote of confidence and being ousted quicker than you can say "Tendy is a buffoon".

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    There are 4 possibilities as to what will happen on October 31

    1. A no deal Brexit. This has the massive problem of almost certainly being blocked by parliament. However there is the prospect of parliament being suspended so that a no deal Brexit can happen. If Johnson did this he would get Brexit but he also would be no longer PM very quickly. It would be the political equivalent of a suicide bomb.

    2. A deal Brexit. The massive problem with this is that the May deal is not going to get through parliament and the EU have stated they do not want to negotiate a new deal. There is also only an extremely small amount of time left to do another deal.

    3. Revoke article 50 and remain in the EU. If Johnson did this he would be effectively resigning as PM as well so I am not sure he would do it.

    4. An extension. This needs the EU to agree to it. The EU might not given another extension although that would hurt them as well as the UK. Certainly they might hold off on giving an extension until the last minute in the hope either parliament blinks and agrees to the May deal rather than a no deal or Johnson revokes article 50. An extension might also see Johnson no longer being PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall View Post
    Total white elephant, stupid investment.
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    Politicians haven't realised how bad HS2 is going to look in 5 or 10 years. The current trend is for decent overall economic growth, but extremely focused in major cities, with most of the country geographically in a pretty severe decline. The only towns and villages that aren't falling apart are those that are well connected to major cities, which also tend to ease urban property shortages. £80bn in transport infrastructure could unlock a hell of a lot of economic potential in places with a high historic population that are awkward to commute from.

    OTOH, it's hard to think of a bigger waste of money than one big train connecting the country's few big cities. Who commutes to London from the centre of Birmingham?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Politicians haven't realised how bad HS2 is going to look in 5 or 10 years. The current trend is for decent overall economic growth, but extremely focused in major cities, with most of the country geographically in a pretty severe decline. The only towns and villages that aren't falling apart are those that are well connected to major cities, which also tend to ease urban property shortages. £80bn in transport infrastructure could unlock a hell of a lot of economic potential in places with a high historic population that are awkward to commute from.

    OTOH, it's hard to think of a bigger waste of money than one big train connecting the country's few big cities. Who commutes to London from the centre of Birmingham?
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    How’s Corrin’s form voting for the Brexit Party then taking off to an EU member country for his visa-less holiday. Hypocritical bastard.

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    Seriously hope he gets caught in a shore break at Nazarè

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Politicians haven't realised how bad HS2 is going to look in 5 or 10 years. The current trend is for decent overall economic growth, but extremely focused in major cities, with most of the country geographically in a pretty severe decline. The only towns and villages that aren't falling apart are those that are well connected to major cities, which also tend to ease urban property shortages. £80bn in transport infrastructure could unlock a hell of a lot of economic potential in places with a high historic population that are awkward to commute from.

    OTOH, it's hard to think of a bigger waste of money than one big train connecting the country's few big cities. Who commutes to London from the centre of Birmingham?
    They sell it as Manchester to London in an hour. It only takes 2 now. The times not the factor, it's the hideous price to do it, coupled with the fact the trains full of obnoxious ****s, neither of which HS2 will fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    How’s Corrin’s form voting for the Brexit Party then taking off to an EU member country for his visa-less holiday. Hypocritical bastard.
    Nonsense that Statists spout, version 9825172736373

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    Would happily pay a visa cost to come here btw. Up the ****ing little islands

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    “Brexit now!*”

    *Gimme easy access to the continent, but no vice versa.

    All the hypocrisy of the Leave movement in one family holiday.

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    Tbf one of the biggest criticisms of the EU, including (and perhaps particularly) from those who love it, is that its immigration and free movement policies etc. are too restrictive and discriminatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    Tbf one of the biggest criticisms of the EU, including (and perhaps particularly) from those who love it, is that its immigration and free movement policies etc. are too restrictive and discriminatory.
    I don’t know if this is the complete opposite of the truth or you’re just using a very creative definition of ‘one of the biggest’.

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    One of the biggest in the academic literature anyway. Which admittedly does not really match up with the general discourse.



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