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    Wouldn't they lose their majority if she gets shunted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    Wouldn't they lose their majority if she gets shunted?
    Yep morrison would never sack her, they need every last one of the mps

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    The premise of the Pell appeal doesnít make sense to me. They are challenging the fact the onus was on him to prove himself innocent in the appeal. But surely thatís how an appeal against a guilty decision works? Or do they redo the entire thing each time?

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    I haven't seen the details, but generally the appeal will still be based on the premise the original jury verdict was perverse and the CCA got it wrong in saying it was a sound verdict. It'll be interesting to see whether the HC even entertains this appeal. Subject to there being some left-field point on the appeal (which tbf there might be, I haven't seen the doc or even read about it), the HC will need to be interested in it before they even grant special leave. A lot of the points about jury verdicts have been dealt with pretty clearly, particularly in Swain v Waverley Council, which was a civil case but still on point to the extent it deals with the low bar for juries to reach their verdicts.

    Having said that, the HC is weird in that sometimes they give leave in cases you don't think they will. I went and did a special leave application (in the drinking chair tbf) years ago and we thought we'd get hosed out in a New York minute. McHugh and Gummow gave us special leave, which was awesome. Then we went to Canberra and got hosed out 5-0 in the substantive case. It's nice to be one of the lawyers in a top-10 most cited case in Australian jurisprudence, but it would have been good to be on the winning side ffs. That case was about who was on the wrong side of the road in a collision between a Kombi van being driven down a dirt road by a hippie which collided head on around a bend with a draught horse being ridden by another hippie. McHugh found it interesting so off to Canberra we went.

    Same thing might happen with Pell, but my impression is the HC these days is a very black letter law court compared to the 90s-00s and especially the 80s, when it was one of the more ground breaking superior courts in the world. But they had the likes of Bill Deane, Anthony Mason, Ron Wilson, McHugh, Mary Gaudron and Michael Kirby about the place in that era. I don't know that the current bench will be all that keen to intervene in a case like this just because he's a famous/ notorious, but who knows.
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    Wait, marijuana is legal in the ACT now.

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    The good old Liberal Government, appointing someone against compulsory super to run their review

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    You really donít want to **** with super in Australia. Itís like ****ing with medicare - if people think youíre doing it, theyíll go you.

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    I don't think the Liberals govern other than to pander to special interest groups. They are going to recommend that the SG stays at 9.5% for sure. Using the circular logic that people in the lower income brackets don't have enough in super anyway so it's not helping with the age pension, rather than the fact that increasing to 12% would increase savings and provide a greater boost to savings.

    The crazy stat I read was that if instead of buying a lottery ticket a week for $25, it was invested in super form 20-65 at a return of 8%, you would have an extra $460,000 at retirement.
    My fintech idea, given the average punter loses $1300 pa, is to make a sportsbet app where people bet against each other with lower winnings but a guaranteed amount goes to super no matter the result. Instead of to a betting company which pays $0 tax in Australia.

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    Seems almost a strategic leak of the talking points today. Nothing too embarrassing (so far) and itís really a way to get the media to publish negative talking points about the ALP before the house sits.

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    what is angus taylor's deal anyway
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    Great stuff. Well done Angus.

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    RIP what was formerly known as the east coast of Australia.
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    been speakin to this lass for a while finally got her round muy house. whakcd on netflix and told her to pick a film. big mistake cos she picked ****in footlose. 2 hours of torture and she dint even blow me. shambles. safe to say we arent talkin no more

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    Pic from Harrington apparently. Never known fires so bad at this time of year before.


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    Port Mac and Forster basically are pits to hell at the moment. I thought half of New England burning down last month was bad.

    Can't wait for Tuesday.



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