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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    If we actualy pull this off with no Ryder or Tuffey and Bond and Broom not at their best/not very good at ODs full stop (only Broom not very good for those that misinterpret ) I'm going to laugh, especially if the side includes Hopkins/Diamanti and Redmond.
    NZ has always been a fighting side. It is one team which is habituated in playing its best cricket even without its biggest stars.

    You do not actually require a great team to win ICC trophy every time. You require a team that is willing to give 100% performance on the field. In that aspect, NZ are top in giving their best, everytime in big tournaments.

    I think we have good team at the moment (barring one or two players), that are capable of taking on Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Average of 26.53 because he beat up on Bangladesh.

    Against top 8 sides the average is 29.31 and an ER of 4.84. Decent but not a quality ODI bowler.

    Most teams would select a player with those stats with no questions asked.

    = quality ODI player.

    But I'm guessing it's a waste of time arguing against you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Average of 26.53 because he beat up on Bangladesh.

    Against top 8 sides the average is 29.31 and an ER of 4.84. Decent but not a quality ODI bowler.
    You ignore the fact that he was selected for NZ too early.

    In the last 3 years (and against top 8 sides) he averages 26.04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRK-NANNES View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
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    Nah Scaly's gun. As long as he's not talking about us he knows his stuff and when he does talk about us, it makes me laugh.
    Scaly's fine by me, I just couldn't resist that cheap edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    Most teams would select a player with those stats with no questions asked.

    = quality ODI player.

    But I'm guessing it's a waste of time arguing against you.
    Doesn't make him a quality ODI player. Makes him a solid ODI player.

    If he was a quality ODI player he'd easily make any team, particularly in this era.
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    Well done NZ but it's been fortunate to have played all its games bar the first one at the Wanderers which has helped its seamers, especially when bowling first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Doesn't make him a quality ODI player. Makes him a solid ODI player.

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    Really enjoy New Zealand ODI team especially in these knock out tournaments because they seem like a team that you'd get the better of if you played them on a regular basis but in a one off match they are always difficult.

    The key is definitely how the captains perform, When Ponting is at the crease Mills and Bond will need to put him under heaps of pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    You ignore the fact that he was selected for NZ too early.

    In the last 3 years (and against top 8 sides) he averages 26.04.
    Yep thats what people from outside NZ fail to take into consideration, out bowlers and batsman are always going to have slightly higher/lower averages as we simply don't have the depth so players get picked before they are ready. If Brendon McCullum was Australian he would of made his debut over the last few years and his average proberbly would be in the 40's.

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