***Official*** First Semi-Final: Australia vs. England

Days of Grace · 30-09-2009, 06:18 PM

England's best chance here is for Jimmy to rip out an opener and Ponting early doors.

aussie · 30-09-2009, 06:35 PM

England need to drop big stupid Wright & pick back Bopara to bat @ 6.

DIRK-NANNES · 30-09-2009, 07:56 PM

Nah, Bopara should be dropped with Strauss and Davies opening and Denly slotting in @ 3.

pup11 · 30-09-2009, 09:59 PM

There are a few things that I'm worried about from an Aussie POV, the batting is looking overly dependent on Ponting and Huss, and if they have an off-day then the going could get pretty tough for us, so the likes of Watto, Ferguson and White need to step-up, if we're to do well at business end of the tournament.

I'm particularly disappointed with White, he has always been seen as this natural leader and very reliable batsman at the domestic level, but in tough situations he has mostly been found wanting (and I'm not just talking about his dismissal yesterday), so that is the sort of the thing he needs to improve on, if he wants raise his stocks as a player.

Anyways, has a replacement for Clarke yet been sent over to South Africa?

cameeel · 30-09-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pup11

Anyways, has a replacement for Clarke yet been sent over to South Africa?

David Hussey to replace Clarke

Not particularly surprising. Would like to see Hussey come in for Hopes, though I doubt that will happen.

NUFAN · 30-09-2009, 11:09 PM

I'm interested in everyone's thoughts on Tim Paine's batting?

I haven't had the opportunity to watch any of this series, nor the last part of the one day series where he scored his century.

I think as Cameeel said, I wouldn't mind Huss in for Hopes if we are going to continue with Siddle or another pace bowler. Huss can bowl a few overs of spin and I think it's a bit of crime whenever Hauritz is bowling tidy but not getting through his 10.

Pretty confident that we beat England, I'm looking to Brett Lee to do all the damage with the ball.

Hurricane · 01-10-2009, 12:07 AM

If I was a betting man which I am - I would put $20 on Aussie. Brett Lee will be too much.

straw man · 01-10-2009, 12:17 AM

Think Australia will be too much for England in this match, given recent history.

If so, I quite like that the winner of the other semi would have to beat Australia (who are still world champions) in the final to win the tournament. Will be good to see if anyone can manage that in a big tournament, or whether Australia have just been pretending to be mediocre at ODIs over the last 12 months. Suspect Ponting will score a hundred when it matters.

aussie · 01-10-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NUFAN

I'm interested in everyone's thoughts on Tim Paine's batting?

I haven't had the opportunity to watch any of this series, nor the last part of the one day series where he scored his century.

I think as Cameeel said, I wouldn't mind Huss in for Hopes if we are going to continue with Siddle or another pace bowler. Huss can bowl a few overs of spin and I think it's a bit of crime whenever Hauritz is bowling tidy but not getting through his 10.

Pretty confident that we beat England, I'm looking to Brett Lee to do all the damage with the ball.

Paine i'd say has improved every game with the bat, not sure if opening is his best position, but he has adapted to it well enough. Overall a solid back-up to Haddin fpr the near future.

Would persist with Hopes for the semi, but maybe presuming AUS win & face PAK in the final, D Hussey can replace him given PAK bowling strenght.

marc71178 · 01-10-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie

England need to drop big stupid Wright & pick back Bopara to bat @ 6.

Even though Bopara is already in the team and batting 6?

So go with 10 men?

aussie · 01-10-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Even though Bopara is already in the team and batting 6?

So go with 10 men?

Bopara only played because Prior was injured. So now that Prior will be back Bopara should be retained & Wright dropped.

Prince EWS · 01-10-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NUFAN

I'm interested in everyone's thoughts on Tim Paine's batting?

I haven't had the opportunity to watch any of this series, nor the last part of the one day series where he scored his century.

I think as Cameeel said, I wouldn't mind Huss in for Hopes if we are going to continue with Siddle or another pace bowler. Huss can bowl a few overs of spin and I think it's a bit of crime whenever Hauritz is bowling tidy but not getting through his 10.

Pretty confident that we beat England, I'm looking to Brett Lee to do all the damage with the ball.

Would much rather see Voges play if we're going to go down the route of a batsman at 7. And given he was already in the squad, I think it's more likely.

NUFAN · 01-10-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Would much rather see Voges play if we're going to go down the route of a batsman at 7. And given he was already in the squad, I think it's more likely.

Ah I figured Voges may have pulled out of the tournament for his honeymoon or something.

four_or_six · 01-10-2009, 01:53 AM

Australia's bowling looks very strong, just because of strength in depth, but I reckon if we can get them in first and restrict them then we have a decent chance.

GIMH · 01-10-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie

England need to drop big stupid Wright & pick back Bopara to bat @ 6.

Wright offers far more than Bopara at this point IMO. Bopara has turned into a self-parody of late.

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aussie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cricket Posts: 16,845	England need to drop big stupid Wright & pick back Bopara to bat @ 6.

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DIRK-NANNES U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: h Posts: 543	Nah, Bopara should be dropped with Strauss and Davies opening and Denly slotting in @ 3.

30-09-2009, 09:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
pup11 International Coach Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: India Posts: 12,134	There are a few things that I'm worried about from an Aussie POV, the batting is looking overly dependent on Ponting and Huss, and if they have an off-day then the going could get pretty tough for us, so the likes of Watto, Ferguson and White need to step-up, if we're to do well at business end of the tournament. I'm particularly disappointed with White, he has always been seen as this natural leader and very reliable batsman at the domestic level, but in tough situations he has mostly been found wanting (and I'm not just talking about his dismissal yesterday), so that is the sort of the thing he needs to improve on, if he wants raise his stocks as a player. Anyways, has a replacement for Clarke yet been sent over to South Africa?

01-10-2009, 12:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hurricane International Captain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 7,363	If I was a betting man which I am - I would put $20 on Aussie. Brett Lee will be too much.

01-10-2009, 12:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
straw man International Vice-Captain Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l Posts: 4,926	Think Australia will be too much for England in this match, given recent history. If so, I quite like that the winner of the other semi would have to beat Australia (who are still world champions) in the final to win the tournament. Will be good to see if anyone can manage that in a big tournament, or whether Australia have just been pretending to be mediocre at ODIs over the last 12 months. Suspect Ponting will score a hundred when it matters.

01-10-2009, 01:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
four_or_six Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,136	Australia's bowling looks very strong, just because of strength in depth, but I reckon if we can get them in first and restrict them then we have a decent chance.

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