***Official*** First Semi-Final: Australia vs. England - Page 18

stephen · 02-10-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pasag

It's not really in isolation when you have a home series and a return series consisting of 10 matches in total, both within the last year. It's pretty conclusive.

As always Australia doesn't really care too much about individual ODI series. It's the big multi-nation tournaments that they show up for. Does anyone remember the ODI series that they lost in NZ before the last WC? I do, but only because of Hayden's hundreds.

Naumaan · 02-10-2009, 11:34 PM

i hope now Pakistan reach Final

Son Of Coco · 03-10-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

And they happened to catch England on a good day, they were unlucky. I'd be as bold to say that 9/10 South Africa would demolish England.

Given SA's past record in big tournaments that'd probably shrink to 4/10 when it mattered.

zaremba · 03-10-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Streetwise

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Originally Posted by Uppercut

It doesn't imply that they don't deserve it at all, it's just interesting how little they've needed to do to get there. Are West Indies C not a prank team? Did you not scrape past Pakistan? Are England not mercurial, and were they not very poor today?

I made no effort to use emotive language, that's just accurate.

Fail.

Mercurial means "inconsistent". How is that emotive?

Uppercut · 03-10-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pasag

See I don't disagree for one second that we've had a difficult run to the finals, I mean playing this England side who are pretty much one step away from an ODI minnow without Fred and KP in the semis is as easy as you'll get. All I'm saying is that our efforts against India shouldn't be conveniently left out in discussing what we've done in this tournament and how we've gotten here.

I was only listing what Australia had to do to get here, and the India game plays no part in that.

Debris · 03-10-2009, 04:32 AM

An easy path is all relative. For Zimbabwe, Australia's path to final would have been very difficult. You are essentially saying that Australia is a very good side.

Uppercut · 03-10-2009, 04:42 AM

That's as may be, but however good a side they are, they've never had such an easy path to the final of a major tournament before nor are they likely to again.

GIMH · 03-10-2009, 05:31 AM

Did we bowl turd or were Watto & Ponting just awesome? Or both?

Uppercut · 03-10-2009, 05:38 AM

It would have taken a very high standard of bowling to contain them (Ponting in particular). A standard England were nowhere near.

0RI0N · 03-10-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Did we bowl turd or were Watto & Ponting just awesome? Or both?

2 shots by the Punter:
the cover drive off the Burnley Express in the 8th over AND
The lofted on drive off Collingwood.
Silk shots.
That coupled with the fact that Watto batting like he was Hayden in his pomp.
Oh yeah and the bowling was rank garbage on a gem of a batting pitch.

Answer: Both

Debris · 04-10-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Uppercut

That's as may be, but however good a side they are, they've never had such an easy path to the final of a major tournament before nor are they likely to again.

I dunno, I seem to remember a World Cup in the recent past where Australia went undefeated and were crushing teams. That run may have been as easy (I admit that the side then was better than this one). Are we actually looking for the worst side to win a major tournament?

wpdavid · 07-10-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Debris

Are we actually looking for the worst side to win a major tournament?

Maybe Aus in 1987? Or India in 1983? WI in 2004?

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