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    New Zealand's squad for ICC Champions trophy

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    Jesse Ryder
    Brendon McCullum
    Martin Guptill
    Ross Taylor
    Grant Elliott
    Neil Broom
    Jacob Oram
    Kyle Mills
    Ian Butler
    Daniel Vettori
    Shane Bond
    
    Gareth Hopkins
    Brendon Diamanti
    Jeetan Patel
    Daryl Tuffey
    Ugh, why do we continue to pick bits n' pieces Diamanti??
    Oram is in but Styris is out, with Patel pipping Nathan McCullum for the 2nd spinner spot.

    Should have had Franklin in over Diamanti, absolutely bizarre selection.
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    There'd have to be quite a few injuries before we picked Diamanti though thank god.
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    A dissapointing squad IMO, Brendon Diamanti is a poor mans scott styris. I think weve been too harsh on Styris when two years ago he was our best ODI batsman and his oppurtunities have been limited since then. Also, Jacob Oram needs to start pulling out some good performances if hes going to avoid the axe. Our ODI attack looks relatively threatening with Bond and Mills opening, Butler/ Tuffey/( oops! were a pace bowler short), followed by Vettori. I dont comprehend the need for Oram, Elliott and Diamanti in a 15 man squad. On this (one quick short) squad this is the team I would field:

    McCullum
    Ryder
    Guptill
    Taylor
    Broom
    Elliott
    Oram
    Vettori
    Mills
    Butler / Tuffey
    Bond
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P. Fleming View Post
    A dissapointing squad IMO, Brendon Diamanti is a poor mans scott styris. I think weve been too harsh on Styris when two years ago he was our best ODI batsman and his oppurtunities have been limited since then. Also, Jacob Oram needs to start pulling out some good performances if hes going to avoid the axe. Our ODI attack looks relatively threatening with Bond and Mills opening, Butler/ Tuffey/( oops! were a pace bowler short), followed by Vettori. I dont comprehend the need for Oram, Elliott and Diamanti in a 15 man squad. On this (one quick short) squad this is the team I would field:

    McCullum
    Ryder
    Guptill
    Taylor
    Broom
    Elliott
    Oram
    Vettori
    Mills
    Butler / Tuffey
    Bond
    Actualy Diamanti is a bowling allrounder, unlike Styris.

    And therein lies the problem. If Diamanti was a batting allroudner with a List A average of 35 and his current list A bowling average then I would agree with his selection in NZ squads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Actualy Diamanti is a bowling allrounder, unlike Styris.

    And therein lies the problem. If Diamanti was a batting allroudner with a List A average of 35 and his current list A bowling average then I would agree with his selection in NZ squads.
    I realize that, but from what I've seen of his bowling he isnt much quicker that Styris whilst Styris can bowl quality cutters. Scotty is clearly the better with the bat so....where's the logic?

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    How the hell did Nathan McCullum miss out?!

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    Having a horrible A tour and he isn't particularly good at one day cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Having a horrible A tour and he isn't particularly good at one day cricket.
    Is that some kind of joke?

    N McCullum on this A tour to India:

    5/85
    3/79
    0/105
    3/38

    1 innings where he didn't take a handful of wickets. Hardly a bad effort against the best players of spin in the world. He also scored some handy runs batting down the order.

    I'm interested to know what Patel has done lately to be included ahead of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Having a horrible A tour and he isn't particularly good at one day cricket.


    He was basically the A team's best bowler

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P. Fleming View Post
    On this (one quick short) squad this is the team I would field:

    McCullum
    Ryder
    Guptill
    Taylor
    Broom
    Elliott
    Oram
    Vettori
    Mills
    Butler / Tuffey
    Bond
    I would prefer Styirs in there as well - with Broom as our backup batsman rather than starting the game.
    Or failing that I wouldn't mind Mcglashan playing in addition to mcCullum. I like his style.

    If I wasn't for that one problem at number 5 in the batting line up then I would rate as a chance to do some damage. Lets hope Broom can silence his doubters me included.

    Also who is our back up batsman in case one of them gets injured. Looks like hopkins will have to step in as a batsman? Taylor or Ryder are bound to pull a hamstring or something for at least one game.
    I also hope that Guptil is consistent he tends to have one good game and then sometimes takes a game off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    If I wasn't for that one problem at number 5 in the batting line up then I would rate as a chance to do some damage. Lets hope Broom can silence his doubters me included.
    I think you mean no. 6/7? Grant Elliott is the incumbent no. 5, the last game with Elliott, Broom and Oram had Elliott @ 5, Oram @ 6 and Broom @ 7.

    Really should have had N. McCullum in for Patel, McGlashan in for Hopkins and Franklin in for Diamanti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRK-NANNES View Post
    Really should have had N. McCullum in for Patel, McGlashan in for Hopkins and Franklin in for Diamanti.
    This exactly.

    I thought N McCullum and McGlashan were pretty much the ODI incumbents for their spot in the team and I really can't understand what Patel and Hopkins have done (given it's the off season and all) to sneak in ahead of them.

    Franklin clearly better than Diamanti, though I'm not sold on Franklin in ODIs at the moment either. Would prefer that he'd focus on tests, but that's pretty hard when the frickin' selectors won't pick him

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    Why does Hopkins keep getting picked?

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