Sorry dirty dirky diggler Nannes but you are incorrect.
The last ODI NZ played the order went Styris/Elliott/Oram at 5/6/7. Although with the dominance the NZers had over India in that one game they werent needed.
Amazing Styris has been left out also. Will be interesting to see what affect the new panel has now with Vettori/Moles. I guess we'll see after the performances of the CT/SL tours and how well these guys go
What is amazing is that the selectors have had such little faith or patience with him in the last year - that's why he's had bugger all cricket.
They may have been grumpy that he threw his toys out of the cot last year and quit test cricket, but soon after that he was playing ODIs against England here, and had an excellent series in England. Failed in October against Bangladesh three times and had injury problems, and now the selectors have forgotten he exists.
He's played a couple of 20/20s also but they're pretty much irrelevant IMO. As a good player for a long period I think he deserved a little more leeway.
Styris shot himself in the foot by quitting test cricket. For mine he's only got himself to blame. I'm happy to see they are sticking with Broom, far more long term in all forms than Styris.
The difference between Broom and Styris though is that Styris is infinitely better, is proven at International level and was consistent here in the UK and if you went to all the games that they played over here in the T20 he actualy looked good and in good touch (besides the SL game obviously)
Youre right for a guy who has performed very well for NZ for 10 years to be discarded so quickly is an injustice. Which is why it'll be interesting to see what influence Vettori/Moles have as its been reported that both havent been happy with the team theyve been at times which may be the exclusion of Styris?
I dont buy this whole threw his toys out of the cot as again it was reported that he had mentioned to Fleming when in SA that he was going to give up test cricket at the end of the summer. So all it did was bring it forward 3 months. With the attitude of discarding your payers for playing one form of the game does this mean now that Freddie over here is discarded for the same thing. Up to his injury against the WI on boxing day lets not forget he was NZs number 1 ranked batsman on the World Rankings. In Fact B Mac has only just passed because Styris hasnt played.
Just think we cant afford to lose his experience. Bring in the Brooms to learn from him otherwise he/Elliott/Williamson and co will flounder for longer than they should
The thing about that england series where he played so well in the ODIs is that by memory he looked scratchy in his first game and then looked a million dollars in the next games as he came into form.
I think it is hard to just jump into international cricket to just play ODIs because it must be a step up from first class. So the one concern about him playing the champions trophy is - has he had enough international cricket recently.
That being said I would still pick him. And have been advocating this. I think all this not rewarding players with loyalty sends a bad message to the rest of the team and leads to them being under too much pressure.
On a personal note when Styris was 14 years old and playing against me in a school 1st XI game I was wicket keeping and I caught him behind and he didn't walk...
Last edited by Hurricane; 25-08-2009 at 12:42 AM.
Anyway, what I meant was the last game that the three of Elliott, Broom and Oram were all in the team.
1st ODI: New Zealand v India at Napier, Mar 3, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com
Hmmm, they have the reserve keeper all wrong.
I think the selectors got very impatient with Styris's inconsistency match by match, added to the fact he wasn't in line for tests and he probably got forgotten.
I think he's currently better than Broom, though in domestics they'll both bash the crap out of domestic attacks.
Only problem I have with Broom is he's being forced into a hitting role which I'm not sure is his game. Also his List A record is quite scratchy, whilst the First Class one should have him as one of the first picked for tests if someone gets dropped from the test team. I think they've got him the wrong way around.
The selectors do seem to realise that Elliott will be a very good ODI allrounder but a poor test one though, which is good. Well, they did at least, then he got picked for SL.
enough said, without him the NZ bowling attack..not to be rude..is kinda ...whats the word...crap
Yeah, that Kyle Mills who has been world class in ODIs for a couple of years is rubbish, along with that left arm spinner whatshisface?
Athai - As for the rankings i dont mean now. I said at the time of his injury which was boxing day 08 when he had his thumb broken. He was number 1, which is a performance thing so he must have shagged Turners daughter or something for him not to be there....ha
Polo - i dont htink we've seen the last of him. Again as i mentioned i just have this hunch that with Vettori/Moles now selecting he is one of those guys they want. But only time will tell on this because if the team loses and badly in SL and then bombs at the CT then we could see him back. All ifs and buts i know otherwise if they do do well i think youre right these new guys will be there to stay
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