*Official* Group B Discussion - South Africa, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, England

[Raghav]

Yeah was reading the cricinfo preview. Vettori is poor in RSA versus RSA.

but not as captain right?

This time he is the captain..There is a change

Hope he does the best

 

[Pratters]

but not as captain right?

This time he is the captain..There is a change

Hope he does the best

He has proven a spectacularly better bowler since he became captain?

 

[kingkallis]

If it tends to spin more as the day goes on it will be tough for SA but from memory, Vettori has never really been a major threat for them.

Correct. He is averaging 45 against SAF but you cant ignore a fighter of Vettori's class.

Edit : Such a soft dismissal of McCullum there....

 

[Bahnz]

They use to. Not like it use to be. Plus increased funding and a focus on abuse in the media has lowered the instances of spousal abuse.

Get that religion in line!

Ahem

Women suffer rugby backlash - All Blacks - NZ Herald News

But then again with spectacular role models like this what do you expect?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/domestic-violence/news/article.cfm?c_id=178&objectid=10433898

Anyway, back to the cricket, McCullum showing how limited a player he is yet again.

 

[Pratters]

Third wicket. RSA 80-20 to win the game. Hopefully they won't CHOKE.

 

[Blakey]

Lovely shot - out thought the bowler.

Nice work by McCullum.

 

[Uppercut]

Wish McCullum would stop this batting through ****e and start doing what he's good at. Should have been out for 40 off 25 instead of 40 off 65.

 

[Raghav]

He has proven a spectacularly better bowler since he became captain?

He has performed very well since he is the captain on comparison with his past performances as just a player

 

[kingkallis]

Grant Elliott has a Giraffe like neck. Atleast thats how it looks like in the pic Star Cricket displayed on his profile...

 

[Raghav]

Wish McCullum would stop this batting through ****e and start doing what he's good at. Should have been out for 40 off 25 instead of 40 off 65.

Just got another one to support the idea of McCullum to come down the batting order...

 

[kingkallis]

He has performed very well since he is the captain on comparison with his past performances as just a player

Mind posting the stats?

 

[Blakey]

He has performed very well since he is the captain on comparison with his past performances as just a player

Very well as a bowler or as a batsman or both combined?

 

[Pratters]

He has performed very well since he is the captain on comparison with his past performances as just a player

I certainly wouldn't rule him out, not on this pitch regardless of his past performances.

 

[kingkallis]

Kiwis playing Botha as if they are facing Warne....I am not sure about 250 now...

 

[thierry henry]

Ever since Moles became coach McCullum has been scoring slowly and struggling to hit anything in the middle.

 

[Uppercut]

Just got another one to support the idea of McCullum to come down the batting order...

Not really, tbh. If he's playing the power-hitting role I think he's better suited to doing it at the top of the order rather than the bottom. But if he's going to score 40 off 65 every game and refuse to keep wicket then he shouldn't be in the team at all.

 

[Pratters]

is captain 2004-2009 52 48 403.4 22 1533 57 5/7 26.89 3.79 42.4 1 1 view innings
is not captain 1997-2007 190 178 1486.4 55 6350 187 5/30 33.95 4.27 47.7 6 1 view innings

You are right Raghav.

 

[Raghav]

Kiwis playing Botha as if they are facing Warne....I am not sure about 250 now...

Botha has improved a lot as a bowler.. I definitely would not ask NZ batsman to get on him at this stage..

 

[kingkallis]

To me thats out

 

[Pratters]

Yeah, gone.