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    Quote Originally Posted by Naumaan View Post
    it's unfortunate when guys go personal
    Yeah. Javed Miandad shouldn't have tried to hit Lillee.

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    Javed Mianded PWNED Chetan Sharma and India with the last ball six at Sharjah. He is a legend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratters View Post
    Javed Mianded PWNED Chetan Sharma and India with the last ball six at Sharjah. He is a legend.
    And he also jumped up and down in front of thousands of people mocking a keeper. He is a damn legend.

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    Haha remember that. Man he could really jump high.


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    I c wut u did thar.

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    Ind struggled against the Kiwis .... Nayar and Mishra did well though .... Tendulkar, Gambhir, Bhajji and Nehra did not play

    Not a bad result though for India as now [hopefully] they will not only be focused against Pak but also work out a combination of guys who look/are in decent touch

    For me, the 11 should be

    - Tendulkar
    - Gambhir
    - Dravid
    - UV
    - Dhoni
    - Nayar
    - Bhajji
    - Mishra
    - RP / Praveen
    - Ishant
    - Nehra


    The batting looks a little short of depth so the top 6 will not only have to take up the responsibility of batting for most of the overs and but also of scoring briskly. Bhajji and Mishra have to do well with the both the bat and the ball


    If they need to strengthen the batting then bring in Karthik in place of one of the spinners .... No Raina and YP please for the first two games. May be try them out against WI as by that time its possible that India would have either gone through or got knocked out
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    Raina played reasonably well yesterday. Should play him at 6 and remove RP/Praveen. Raina, Yuvraj and Nayar can bowl the 5th bowler's 10 overs.

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    The top five is Gambhir, Tendulkar, Dravid, Yuvraj and Dhoni. We're decided on that.

    This lunacy of having Yuvraj and Raina bowling should stop. Anything they can do, the likes of Mishra and Harbhajan and even Yusuf can do significantly better. On the other hand, they need conserve their energy for their batting, as the team needs big hundreds from them, not a few overs. Lesser batsmen like Yusuf and Nayar can do the hard work of sending down overs. Why Dhoni doesn't give Nayar any bowling, we don't know.

    If the Indians rely on pace to do the job for them, they're in for a rude shock. All the pacers have leaked lots of runs, with the new ball or old, in the first few overs or last. Keeping either Bhajji or Mishra out for one of them makes no sense. For the value these pacers create, Nayar is good enough. He should be the third seamer, not RP/Praveen/Nehra.
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    A good win for pakistan yesterday. I wanted to see how they get along when they are chasing, although they werent playing a international side but it would be extremely good for their confidence that they managed to easily get to the target with wickets in hand. I believe pakistan is well prepared now.
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    My XI would be as follows -

    Tendulkar
    Gambhir
    Dravid
    Raina
    Yuvraj
    Dhoni
    Nayar
    Bhajji
    RP
    Ishant
    Nehra

    Harsh on Mishra but I don't see two spinners working well in RSA. Nayar can be useful as the 5th bowler as he can bowl medium pace which would be better than the spin of Yuvraj in RSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratters View Post
    My XI would be as follows -

    Tendulkar
    Gambhir
    Dravid
    Raina
    Yuvraj
    Dhoni
    Nayar
    Bhajji
    RP
    Ishant
    Nehra

    Harsh on Mishra but I don't see two spinners working well in RSA. Nayar can be useful as the 5th bowler as he can bowl medium pace which would be better than the spin of Yuvraj in RSA.
    Would drop RP and play Mishra even in SA.
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    Ideally, I would like to play Mishra ahead of Harbhajan but I don't see that happening.

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    some good points there by everyone

    as someone said the top 5 are settled, Ishant and Nehra [who picks up wkts every now and then] pick themselves in, Bhajji for his decent performances in SL and usefulness with the bat .... 8 places decided for

    the selection of the other 3 places is tricky as this would determine the overall depth of the side. I would usually go in with 3 pacers unless the pitch is a turner or the spinners are of Warne, Murali or Kumble's quality. So it's b/w RP and Praveen [too bad Zak is out] .... the next two places are amongst Raina, YP, Karthik and Mishra

    too bad IP [Irfan Pathan] isn't included as he would have been a good #7 and also an useful 3rd seamer [considering India's options atm]. This would have also allowed India to play both Bhajji and Mishra w/o much thinking
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    Btw, T20 seems to have made an impact on how we select teams. Take all-rounders' position for example for which we are selecting guys who are only good enough to bowl 4-5 overs as 5th bowler and score may be 20-25 runs!

    Ideally, we should be going for someone who can either average around 30-35 or bowl at least 7-8 effective overs. If not then are we not better off selecting specialists?

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    Seeing RP and Nehra in action makes me want to shoot myself in the head for bashing Irfan Pathan.

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