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    England thread

    Champions Trophy Preliminary Squad

    Tim Ambrose, James Anderson, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara, Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Michael Carberry, Paul Collingwood, Alastair Cook, Andrew Flintoff, Simon Jones, Ed Joyce, Robert Key, Sajid Mahmood, Dimitri Mascarenhas, Phil Mustard, Graham Onions, Monty Panesar, Samit Patel, Darren Pattinson, Kevin Pietersen, Liam Plunkett, Matt Prior, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Andrew Strauss, Graeme Swann, James Tredwell, Chris Tremlett, Luke Wright.


    Your final 15?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    Your final 15?
    Ambrose, Anderson, Bell, Bopara, Broad, Collingwood (C), Cook, Flintoff, Mascarenhas, Pietersen, Shah, Sidebottom, Swann, Tremlett, Wright.

    Will be very surprised and disappointed if it's anything but that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Ambrose, Anderson, Bell, Bopara, Broad, Collingwood (C), Cook, Flintoff, Mascarenhas, Pietersen, Shah, Sidebottom, Swann, Tremlett, Wright.

    Will be very surprised and disappointed if it's anything but that.
    You'll be disappointed if they don't pick Luke Wright?
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    Yep. Wright needs to bat down the order so they can find-out he's useless there too (as many have been clamouring for him to bat there) then be dropped and never recalled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    Champions Trophy Preliminary Squad

    Tim Ambrose, James Anderson, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara, Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Michael Carberry, Paul Collingwood, Alastair Cook, Andrew Flintoff, Simon Jones, Ed Joyce, Robert Key, Sajid Mahmood, Dimitri Mascarenhas, Phil Mustard, Graham Onions, Monty Panesar, Samit Patel, Darren Pattinson, Kevin Pietersen, Liam Plunkett, Matt Prior, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Andrew Strauss, Graeme Swann, James Tredwell, Chris Tremlett, Luke Wright.


    Your final 15?
    Anderson
    Bell
    Bopara
    Broad
    Collingwood*
    Flintoff
    Mascarenhas
    Mustard+
    Patel
    Pietersen
    Prior
    Shah
    Sidebottom
    Swann
    Wright


    For me. Possibly a bit light on seam, but we'd got Jimmy, Fred, Sid & Broad as bankers with Swann's off-spin so just need maximum of 10 from any combo from Mascarenhas/Colly/Wright/Bopara.
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    Pattinson to be the not so surprise pick IMO

    Will have a crack at what I think they will and should pick now
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    Tim Ambrose, James Anderson, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara, Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Michael Carberry, Paul Collingwood, Alastair Cook, Andrew Flintoff, Simon Jones, Ed Joyce, Robert Key, Sajid Mahmood, Dimitri Mascarenhas, Phil Mustard, Graham Onions, Monty Panesar, Samit Patel, Darren Pattinson, Kevin Pietersen, Liam Plunkett, Matt Prior, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Andrew Strauss, Graeme Swann, James Tredwell, Chris Tremlett, Luke Wright.

    I think the squad will be:

    Collingwood*
    Mustard+
    Cook
    Shah
    Pietersen
    Bopara
    Broad
    Flintoff
    Sidebottom
    Pattinson
    Wright
    Swann
    Tredwell
    Bell
    Anderson

    CBF picking exclusively from the 30, though I might end up doing so

    Bell
    Cook
    Pietersen
    Shah
    Flintoff
    Collingwood
    Broad
    Read (**** the ICL )
    Swann
    Sidebottom
    Anderson
    Mascarenhas
    Bopara
    Joyce
    S Jones

    Not really convinced about my own selection but meh

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    best xi england could do would be

    mustard
    wright
    pietersen
    bell
    collingwood
    flintoff
    bopara
    swann
    broad
    sidebottom
    anderson

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    No, it wouldn't. Bopara batting below Flintoff and Collingwood? Get nothing from him down there. Mustard and Wright opening? Surefire way to 5-2 most innings'.

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    My 15

    1. Anderson
    2. Bell
    3. Bopara
    4. Broad
    5. Collingwood
    6. Flintoff
    7. Jones
    8. Mascarenhas
    9. Mustard
    10. Panesar
    11. KP
    12. Shah
    13. Sidebottom
    14. Swann
    15. Wright


    Two spinners is probably a must. I’ll also take Jones as an option not to bowl with the new ball or indeed at the death but to operate within the 15-40 over period - Flintoff to bowl at the death alongside Colly and some darts from Swann.

    XI
    Wright
    Mustard
    KP
    Bell
    Collingwood
    Flintoff
    Mascarenhas
    Broad
    Swann
    Jones/Panesar
    Anderson

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    Still astonished that people can pick Mustard. His one-day performances this season been good for you guys, have they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Still astonished that people can pick Mustard. His one-day performances this season been good for you guys, have they?
    Better than Ambrose, yeah

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    Naming a 15 man squad is tough. There are would probably be changes if I did it tomorrow.

    First thing that stands out is that there is a lack of options, talent and depth.

    Thought Process

    I could only keep 2 of Bopara, Bell and Shah. Shah misses out based on Bells better record and Boparas big 200+ this season, though to be frank it could have been any of them.

    Prior probably lucky to be included. Has a terrible record (average) at domestic level but he is stil the most capable of playing an innings (decent number of centuries). Id bat him down the order

    Dimitri Mascarenhas misses out as I dont think his batting is strong enough to carry his bowling. He is certainly economical but as a specialist bowler you have to carry your share of the responsibility and he doesnt.

    Luke Wright is lucky as hell. Its hard to justify his inclusion apart from the fact the only other options would be a slow scoring journeyman and we have plenty of them. He is included mainly due to lack of other options.

    Jones and Plunkett excluded due to their poor record and they can let the game get away from them.

    Strauss and Cook can be considered lucky and both a result of lack of quality options. Ive never believed Strauss was as terrible as some have made out. Also, Im a believer that if there is little, to nothing, to choose between 2 players then go with keeping the same players for all teams for continuity. I hate the idea of a mess of average players with caps all over. I dont think its any coincidence that the last time England were decent in ODIs that there were a number of 'specialist Test players' in the team.

    Joyce included as he has a good career record and was never given a fair opportunity last time round

    My 15
    Ian Bell
    Ravi Bopara
    Paul Collingwood
    Alastair Cook
    Ed Joyce
    Kevin Pietersen
    Andrew Strauss
    Matt Prior
    Andrew Flintoff
    Luke Wright.
    James Anderson
    Stuart Broad
    Ryan Sidebottom
    Graeme Swann
    Chris Tremlett

    Starting XI
    Strauss
    Bell
    Joyce
    Pietersen
    Flintoff
    Collingwood
    Prior
    Broad
    Swann
    Anderson
    Sidebottom

    A possible change being Bopara for Joyce

    Frankly, I like it as much as I can given the players available.

    As far as Im concerned there are only 4 automatic selections. Anderson, KP, Swann and and Flintoff
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    I like your squad, I really do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    Better than Ambrose, yeah
    Ambrose who played a whole 2 games, scoring 28 and 1.

    Hardly conclusive in any respect, 2 games.

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