Championless Trophy? - stop the bs and go

[MrHat]

Originally Posted by vic_orthdox

Absolute rubbish.

You had better stop spouting idiotic rubbish, because judging by the manner that you've posted so far, you're not wanted here.

So theres nothing wrong with describing concerns over player safety as BS around here. OK.

[honestbharani]

Originally Posted by MrHat

How about the thread title for starters.

started by an Aussie, FYI..

[MrHat]

Originally Posted by honestbharani

started by an Aussie, FYI..

Theres not much diversity of opinion around here, I'll give you that

[MrHat]

Originally Posted by unccricket

they just need to go and play. there's a risk of danger anywhere you go, and that's like saying india, australia, whoever, refuse to tour england b/c of the terrorist attack in london a few years back. be consistent with your decisions, why does it always seem like the "western" countries are looking for an excuse not to play in the subcontinent? i guess players just can't acclimatize to the cusine and pollution and look for a convenient way out...

Take this comment, noone disagreed with this - as if Australia is as safe as Pakistan. Absolute bollocks.

[Jono]

Originally Posted by MrHat

How about the thread title for starters.

A lot of irony regarding the fact that social started this thread.

If you knew posting history, he's far from an Aussie basher.

[Richard]

Haha, social an Aussie-basher. Probably the third-least-likely (second if sideshowtim's ban is a perm one) to do so on CW, really.

[social]

Originally Posted by Richard

Haha, social an Aussie-basher. Probably the third-least-likely (second if sideshowtim's ban is a perm one) to do so on CW, really.

Fortunately, aside from issues like this, there's not too much to bash

They've been the best side in the world for a decade and others, odd incident aside (such as Warne and drugs, for whom I advocated a life ban due to an accumulation of offences) are far worse behaved

Now if I was really, really biased, I would claim that 2 of my countrymen were better players than a foreigner despite the latter having a massive statistical and reputational advantage over either of the local pretenders

[Langeveldt]

Nah I'm in slight agreement with Mr Hat. I find it strange how people who have never even been to a country can claim to be security experts.. I seem to remember SA pulling out of a tour to Sri Lanka after a bomb went off, and I was met with absolute hysteria when I claimed it might be unsafe to continue said tour.. I don't think anyone here can rightly suggest that Pakistan is a safe/unsafe place to tour.. There are too many variables and it's something for the professionals to decide..

The champions trophy shouldn't be happening anyway, so the fact we're having this argument in the first place is a bit of a farce..

[Fusion]

Originally Posted by Langeveldt

Nah I'm in slight agreement with Mr Hat. I find it strange how people who have never even been to a country can claim to be security experts.. I seem to remember SA pulling out of a tour to Sri Lanka after a bomb went off, and I was met with absolute hysteria when I claimed it might be unsafe to continue said tour.. I don't think anyone here can rightly suggest that Pakistan is a safe/unsafe place to tour.. There are too many variables and it's something for the professionals to decide..

You do realize that plenty of us either live in the subcontinent or visit regularly? Of course we can form an opinion on whether it's safe there or not. Add to that the fact that no cricket team or individual has EVER been hurt while touring the subcontinent and I'd say the concerns are unfounded. As far as too many "variables" to consider, those exist in every country. There is an element of risk everywhere.

[silentstriker]

Originally Posted by Langeveldt

Nah I'm in slight agreement with Mr Hat. I find it strange how people who have never even been to a country can claim to be security experts.. I

Many of us have been to, or lived in, Sri Lanka, India, or Pakistan. The thing that gets to me is that they are completely inconsistent in applying their standards. Unless you think the Aussie team would leave England if something happened there.

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by unccricket

they just need to go and play. there's a risk of danger anywhere you go, and that's like saying india, australia, whoever, refuse to tour england b/c of the terrorist attack in london a few years back. be consistent with your decisions, why does it always seem like the "western" countries are looking for an excuse not to play in the subcontinent? i guess players just can't acclimatize to the cusine and pollution and look for a convenient way out...

Really it's nothing like that at all.

[Mard]

I am from peshawar in northern pakistan and the situation is pretty bad in this part of the country. Bin laden and his gang is literary just a few hundred Kms away, not to mention Taliban. But places like Lahore and Karachi are ok i think, last time i was in lahore 3 months ago and i saw many western tourists there. Though ofcourse i can understand why some countries dont want to tour, it is understandable.

[Athlai]

Originally Posted by Mard

I am from peshawar in northern pakistan and the situation is pretty bad in this part of the country. Bin laden and his gang is literary just a few hundred Kms away, not to mention Taliban. But places like Lahore and Karachi are ok i think, last time i was in lahore 3 months ago and i saw many western tourists there. Though ofcourse i can understand why some countries dont want to tour, it is understandable.

Pretty much sums up my view, its understandable why the teams may not want to go.

[unccricket]

Originally Posted by Son Of Coco

Really it's nothing like that at all.

the point i am making is that these things can happen anywhere, even in supposed "safe" countries like England. While it is true that areas of Pakistan are inherently more unstable, I still think it is unreasonable to refuse to tour Pakistan, while still playing in India or England, where terrorist attacks have occurred in the past....its the inconsistencies that bother me.

[Dasa]

Originally Posted by Son Of Coco

Really it's nothing like that at all.

Nah, it pretty much is.