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    Thought they didn't go in fear of facing a (now confirmed from the B sample) juiced up Asif.
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    Seems like, basically, Reg Dickason (who Cricket Australia has used for 12 years and they say has never let them down) visited Karachi during the Asia Cup on behalf of CA/NZ/ECB and has given a thumbs down, and Nicholls Steyn (who was engaged by the ICC and I'm sure is also a top security expert) had visited during the Asia Cup but also at other times over the last few months has been more positive.

    Quick question... if the ICC wanted to persuade cricket Australia... why on earth didn't it take the Cricket Australia-trusted security expert along with them in their other visits to Pakistan?!

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    Meh, who actually thought they would go? Total non-story for mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Expected. Hopefully, they use the same logic and not tour India, considering all the bombings recently. And their players boycott the IPL.
    India is a victim of terrorism and in Pakistan' case they are reaping what they sowed, Pakistan has been a breeding ground for terrorism for a long time now, but they never did anything to wipe off terrorism of their lands, as these terrorist groups were helping them inflict damage on India, but now that decision is coming back to haunt them.


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    Dickason, hired by Cricket Australia, New Zealand Cricket and the ECB, provided, broadly, "a very negative report based on a one-day stay in Karachi simply advising them not to tour" according to an official involved in the recent meetings between the ICC task force and Australian players.
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    With all these so-called expert reports your never going to get you something that says the place to 100% safe or potential not safe to play. If people can live in these countries and perform their normal lives then there will always be a good chance the tour will go off without any problems. Though all it takes is a couple incidents and the place to meant to be unsafe. But how can you make an assessment in one day, that just stupid.

    Still can't understand how anyone can say Pakistan is safer then Sri Lanka. You might not get targeted specifically. But a lot more people die every day in Sri Lanka and you have as much chance of getting caught up in collateral damage, as you do in a targeted attack in Pakistan.

    The whole thing is double standards at it best. Part of me hopes something happens in Sri Lanka, to just show how stupid they are. If they force the tournment out of Pakistan for no good reason. But I wouldn 't wish that on anyone.
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    Today, 50 killed in Islamabad in a twin suicide attack!

    I dont know why Pakistan still insist all the other teams to tour their country for the champions trophy. Its really ridiculous on their part to tell to ICC that they would boycott if all the teams wont tour Pakistan....
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    How many times does the ICC have to decide on something before its final?
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    Can't blame any country for not going after reading this article.

    A massive bomb blast killing at least 60 people and a declaration of war by the Taliban in Pakistan is alarming New Zealand cricketers set to play there next month.

    Two suicide bombers overnight attacked Pakistan’s largest weapons manufacturing complex near Islamabad killing at least 60 people.

    The Taliban claimed responsibility and said they were declaring war on Pakistan itself.

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    ****, gone even FURTHER than any one could possibly go! Can't blame them for not touring, FTR.
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    They've declared a war on India for decades. What's the big deal? And if I am not mistaken, they've done the same on the US. No one would visit the US either, right?

    Again, perception overshadows reality. Doesn't really matter - the countries who won't tour had made their decision months ago. Nothing was going to convince them anyway. The tournament should go ahead without them, though the ICC have said it won't without teams like Australia. Sad end, unfortunately. But better than caving in to the sensationalists and moving it to an equally dangerous location.
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    I like this measured article from Harsha Bhogle. Kind of sums it up for me portraying a level of understanding for both 'sides'.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/story/351794.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by four_or_six View Post
    I like this measured article from Harsha Bhogle. Kind of sums it up for me portraying a level of understanding for both 'sides'.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/story/351794.html
    Agreed

    Some teams were never going to go and the latest incident is the final excuse they need whilst others would always support Pakistan

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    As always, in my experience, Bhogle does a good job of trying to show both sides of the argument.

    I would take issue with whether the 'chaos' and overflowing toilets have played much of a part in the decision making process. I think since the time of Steve Waugh the Aussies have been prepared to embrace the experience, and if there wasn't the terrorism/civil strife issue, the vast majority of the team would be very happy to go to Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    They've declared a war on India for decades. What's the big deal? And if I am not mistaken, they've done the same on the US. No one would visit the US either, right?

    Again, perception overshadows reality. Doesn't really matter - the countries who won't tour had made their decision months ago. Nothing was going to convince them anyway. The tournament should go ahead without them, though the ICC have said it won't without teams like Australia. Sad end, unfortunately. But better than caving in to the sensationalists and moving it to an equally dangerous location.
    FFS, mate who wants to see Asia cup revisited.

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