Championless Trophy? - stop the bs and go

[silentstriker]

Originally Posted by Matt79

Disagree tbh...

Well, its a matter of record.

[silentstriker]

Originally Posted by Matt79

Still could have been killed.

And they couldn't in Jaipur because....?

[FRAZ]

Eventualy the trophy may take place in Pakistan and all but 1 team may visit Pakistan and there are gonna be matches and one team will win and players are gonna go back home safely . And then there is gonna be no answer or no nothing from the non visitors . And then there will be another tomorrow and then another day after tomorrow but the seeds of poison ivy will still stay in some brains and so on and so forth !

[FRAZ]

The thing is that in Pakistani or lets say Indian or lets say Srilankan society there is no seed of color based racism at all and one can never witness the disgusting hate full ugly sarcastic faces towards the other colors and people there haven't got a clue of color based racism and they just see the things through movies and media where right of self opinion is not used like forums of internet or let's say any slump street corner .
They see world through a scanned medium and they are not like that ugly and filthy few dozens who commit that sort of racism and then they expect as if the people there are going to perform at the same level and in the same manner to the people with the skin like there's .
Matter is money , important seeking , resting the players and sick mentality . I think that more than 100 % players survived while playing the Asia cup !

[FRAZ]

btw I survived when I visited there . And am going there in October and will survive again .

[FRAZ]

If Pakistani team is visiting in any country and players wanna hang out without security and they end up in a remote area and bunch of skinheads appear from some where and they are in a mood of preying on their usual victims and will they think that Pakistani team be spared because they are cricket players?

[Fusion]

Originally Posted by Matt79

Right, and remind me of how many assassination attempts have been made on Musharraf in recent years, and how close some of them came? Or how Benazir Bhutto's health is these days. I wouldn't find that offer particularly reassuring if I felt I was a likely target.

And since when do we take the PCB seriously in anything it guarantees?

Inaccurate comparison. Musharraf and Bhutto were specific targets. In the case of Musharraf, he’s probably the biggest target in all of Pakistan. As for Bhutto, she would still be alive (just like Musharraf), if she had followed the advice of the security provided to her. She was campaigning in an open area that could not be fully secured, and where a previous high-profile assassination had taken place already. Frankly, it was utter stupidity for her to go there in the first place. She could’ve easily campaigned from more secure locations, or just through the media (which was covering her every move, hence giving her unprecedented face time at the expense of the other candidates).

The foreign cricket teams have never been targeted in Pakistan. AFAIK, Ponting or the other players have no desire to become PM of Pakistan so they will not be attending political rallies. The teams will be staying in secure locations, where no random person will be allowed near them. Your quote about PCB’s guarantee not amounting to much is also misleading. It is the government of Pakistan that is guaranteeing the player’s safety, and they have a completely successful record in that regard. India (not the darlings of any extremists for sure) have toured many times without incident, as have England, South Africa, Sri Lanka and the Windies. How many successful tours must take place before Pakistan is deemed to be safe?

[Fusion]

Originally Posted by Matt79

Still could have been killed.

The Aussies could've been killed in England when the bombs went off there. The cricket teams were not the target in either of those incidents. There is an element of danger anywhere. Of course it is higher in Pakistan, which is why the security provided is also higher.

[duffer]

Originally Posted by Fusion

Inaccurate comparison. Musharraf and Bhutto were specific targets. In the case of Musharraf, he’s probably the biggest target in all of Pakistan. As for Bhutto, she would still be alive (just like Musharraf), if she had followed the advice of the security provided to her. She was campaigning in an open area that could not be fully secured, and where a previous high-profile assassination had taken place already. Frankly, it was utter stupidity for her to go there in the first place. She could’ve easily campaigned from more secure locations, or just through the media (which was covering her every move, hence giving her unprecedented face time at the expense of the other candidates).

The foreign cricket teams have never been targeted in Pakistan. AFAIK, Ponting or the other players have no desire to become PM of Pakistan so they will not be attending political rallies. The teams will be staying in secure locations, where no random person will be allowed near them. Your quote about PCB’s guarantee not amounting to much is also misleading. It is the government of Pakistan that is guaranteeing the player’s safety, and they have a completely successful record in that regard. India (not the darlings of any extremists for sure) have toured many times without incident, as have England, South Africa, Sri Lanka and the Windies. How many successful tours must take place before Pakistan is deemed to be safe?

This.

[funnygirl]

well it is not proper to judge from here the situation in pakistan .But from the latest tragedy there is an element of uncertainy in these attacks . Basically the attackers want to create a shock ,so after all these hoopla of Australian team ,what is the probability that they wouldn't targer cricketers .Champions trophy is a huge event ,so would the negative force take it as ''an opportunity to challenge '' the security and a make a total mockery of it .

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Fusion

The Aussies could've been killed in England when the bombs went off there. The cricket teams were not the target in either of those incidents. There is an element of danger anywhere.

Indeed - any cricket team could be killed in any country if their bus crashes.

The fact that buses crashing isn't something most people think of as much as being caught in a bomb blast doesn't make it all that much less likely.

[Aamir Alauddin]

Just show some money to Aussies, they would be available to play even in hell. Another thing, their era of being the champion is over. Now they need such scandals to gain the popularity.

[Aamir Alauddin]

Guys all the teams who played in Asia cup are killed in bomb blasts. India, Sri lanka, Pakistan and Bangla Desh are making new teams for Champions trophy.

[TT Boy]

[Aamir Alauddin]

Throw some money for these characterless Aussies, they all would be playing domestic cricket in Pakistan.