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    NZ in Pakistan is better than SA in Pakistan, Sri Lanka is currently not up to their usual standard so I reckon NZ is in with a decent chance, India and Australia being the favourites though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    NZ in Pakistan is better than SA in Pakistan
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    Any day, we should have had them in SA, that ODI series was tighter than any one cares to say. Reckon NZ would be decent money for the trophy itself let alone beating a Saffie team in the sub-continent.

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    Haha...lets see will Aussies defend their title or will they chicken out again.

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    Haha...lets see will Aussies defend their title or will they chicken out again.
    Dire. If it's moved, I trust the "love" towards Australia will be shared around then?
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    Very interesting groups, wouldn't be surprised to see three teams tied on two wins each TBH. New Zealand have a very reasonable chance to qualify for the semis IMO with a comparably weaker pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Dire. If it's moved, I trust the "love" towards Australia will be shared around then?
    Yeah pretty good chance of it moving away i'd say.

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    Yeah interesting that it's in Pakistan, I'm hoping for cricket's sake that things get better over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurrz View Post
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    Group A Australia (1), India (4), Pakistan (5), West Indies (8)
    Group B South Africa (2), New Zealand (3), Sri Lanka (6), England (7)
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    Group A is tougher than group B (that is common sense disregarding what ICC rankings say)...It should be tough competition between first 3 teams of group A for semi-final spots....Having said that, the methodology for dividing the 2 groups is not questionable; it's true and transparent, and probably fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    NZ in Pakistan is better than SA in Pakistan
    New Zealand in Pakistan...
    http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/...m;view=results

    South Africa in Pakistan...
    http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/...m;view=results

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    The one thing is that the dew always afffects day and night games in Pakistan to a huge extent. The toss could end being extremely crucial in this tournament.....


    I think dew plays a bigger role there compared to even day and night games in India... Not sure exactly. Maybe some one with better knowledge in geography and geology and climatic conditions can correct me here, but does the fact Pakistan is not bordered by water play any part in the amount of dew we see over there?
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    Funny thing is, the dew in Pakistan tends to have the same effect all the time, whereas in India (and also Sri Lanka), it varies.

    In India, it's resulted both in conditions becoming crazily seam-friendly and in bowling becoming very difficult due to the wet ball (and sometimes it's also had no notable effect). In Pakistan, always it seems to be the latter - the non-bracketed latter. In India it generally seems to depend on time of year - in October, it's more often a case of seam-friendliness, in March, more often sopping-ball-syndrome. Whereas in Sri Lanka it more often seems to vary from venue to venue regardless of time of year - in Dambulla day\nighters always make seam-friendly into very seam-friendly, whereas in Columbo day\nighters the night never seems to have much effect.

    Does anyone know, also, what time the games in the Champions Trophy will start at? I've seen games in Pakistan that've tended to be starting at 1PM, but then also games that start at 10AM (earlier than a day game would start over here ). These decisions seem to have been influenced by the dew, but starting earlier has never seemed to me to solve any problems at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    The one thing is that the dew always afffects day and night games in Pakistan to a huge extent. The toss could end being extremely crucial in this tournament.....


    I think dew plays a bigger role there compared to even day and night games in India... Not sure exactly. Maybe some one with better knowledge in geography and geology and climatic conditions can correct me here, but does the fact Pakistan is not bordered by water play any part in the amount of dew we see over there?
    Usually in Pakistan we get Day/evenings games which means the match starts at 11 a.m and it goes uptill 7 p.m so due dosen't play up as a huge factor.

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