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Old 30-10-2006, 07:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Same teams as I've said all along, Australia, West Indies and England if they're injury free. I thought Pakistan might come into it but probably not now they've got players facing bans and Woolmer hasn't managed to sort out all the politics and disharmony. South Africa will probably make the semis but I can't see them winning.
If England have Vaughan, Simons and whoeverelse fit.. i just don't see how any team could possibly stand at same ground as them... they'll blow them apart

One moment the english fan apparently don't give a tosh about ODI's and next moment they are talking there team as the next great thing to happen. I guess all this optimism must have come after chasing that 272 against WI's i assume.

Anyways Aus fav but it'll alot closer than last world cup. I would've said Pakistan would've been right up their if Shaoib and Asif didn't go for drugs. Possibly SA, NZ and even SL will do pretty well if pitches are slow. I don't rate india's chances too well, our batting's looking bad and that used to be our plus point and bowling's never been good. So whatever india acheive at world cup will be bonus really, because i don't really have my hopes up.
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Old 31-10-2006, 06:20 AM   #20 (permalink)
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If England have Vaughan, Simons and whoeverelse fit.. i just don't see how any team could possibly stand at same ground as them... they'll blow them apart

One moment the english fan apparently don't give a tosh about ODI's and next moment they are talking there team as the next great thing to happen. I guess all this optimism must have come after chasing that 272 against WI's i assume.
Err I just said they'd do well if they had their first team... At the World Cup there won't be one eye on the Ashes or some other Test series like there usually is, so they'll do better than usual anyway (which isn't that difficult). It only takes 2-3 players to fill in the holes and make the team go from losing most of the time to winning most of the time.

It is still a case of Ashes >>>>> World Cup and the same goes for over 90% of England supporters according to cricinfo.
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One moment the english fan apparently don't give a tosh about ODI's and next moment they are talking there team as the next great thing to happen. I guess all this optimism must have come after chasing that 272 against WI's i assume.
To be fair to SP, he's always had that view.

He's the only one amongst the English fans though...
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It is still a case of Ashes >>>>> World Cup and the same goes for over 90% of England supporters according to cricinfo.
That's only because England won last time. When they lose them again the sporting public will revert to not giving a toss about cricket at all.
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That's only because England won last time. When they lose them again the sporting public will revert to not giving a toss about cricket at all.
Disagree. England always expects.
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To be fair to SP, he's always had that view.

He's the only one amongst the English fans though...
Lets put it this way, as I have done before.

New Zealand haven't got a hope unless someone knocks Australia out for them.
India bottle it in big games.
Pakistan are in complete disarray but we've seen that before, however they've now got their best bowler and another bowler facing a ban.
SA are a good side but still haven't removed the bottlers tag - we'll see if they come up against Australia in the CT whilst Australia have a really strong team, not that pathetic bowling they pillaged 400odd against.
SL are too weak away from home and are just in a down cycle at the moment, another few years they'll probably become a force again.

So that leaves: England who have the mental strength needed to beat Australia, but not the personnel fit at the moment and West Indies who've come on stronger and quicker than even I imagined. Australia who are the one to beat again - someone has to beat them if they want to win. WI just did it, England did it a year or so ago, the rest haven't beaten a really strong Australian side when it counts for something recently.

People who look at the rankings are wasting their time. Teams change since then, Australia are now much stronger than the past year, if England have their players back they'll be much stronger, WI rise to the big occasion but usually manage to lose otherwise - not a problem for the World Cup.
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That's only because England won last time. When they lose them again the sporting public will revert to not giving a toss about cricket at all.
Correct.
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well now that Pakistan wont have Shoaib n Asif they are no longer in my top 3. So for me its Australia, South Africa, West Indies, Sri Lanka as my main 4. NZ if they get their top order organised could do well and full-strenght England team. Somehow i don't think the Indians will do much damage in the world cup.
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West Indies= so overrated right now
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And that's true for our games against Bangladesh, Kenya and Zimbabwe as well.
actually i think if kaif and powar play regularly they can be quite a good side.
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Err I just said they'd do well if they had their first team... At the World Cup there won't be one eye on the Ashes or some other Test series like there usually is, so they'll do better than usual anyway (which isn't that difficult). It only takes 2-3 players to fill in the holes and make the team go from losing most of the time to winning most of the time.

It is still a case of Ashes >>>>> World Cup and the same goes for over 90% of England supporters according to cricinfo.
and their first team includes 2 more rubbish players than the current side. Sounds like making of quite a decent side. Seriously when are people going to stop living off the summer of 2005? one ODI series does not change 3 years of garbage in ODI cricket since the last world cup.
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West Indies= so overrated right now
Why?
There arent too many stronger batting lineups than Gayle, Chanderpaul, Morton, Sarwan and Lara going around IMO.
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