Go Back   Cricket Web > Archived Forums > Archived Forums > ICC Champions Trophy 2006



Finding Seams on Apples - Order Your Copy!


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 21-10-2006, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
First Class Debutant
 
Bouncer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Area 51 (Been requesting videos that even robelinda cant come up with - up yours all CW )
Posts: 860
Should Lara Bat lower down the order against india too?

I think the most crucial most interesting game of tournament will be WINDIES vs INDIA, boy what game, both teams have perfect batting line up for playing at thos Indian batting paradise wickets, Indians are a head of Winides in overall batting line up but when it comes to delievering when matters, I have lot more trust in Lara than Sachin.

Brian batted lower down the order against the Aussies and played an inning that took WI to a winning total. and i am thinking if he does the same thing in India game he has a better chance of making things work for Windians

The only time in whole inning where Indian bowling can impose themselves is first 15 overs with new ball and Pathan and Co swinging the ball and enticing West indian batsman to play strokes and have'em make mistakes. And this is the reason i'd hope that Lara plays down the order to avoid the first few overs where Ball has possibility of swinging. I am sure Brian, after he settles down can score runs at great pace and even if he bats for over 24 onwards, he still can end up with a 70+ score and take Windinian total to good level.
__________________
Twitter @3Bouncers
One of my friends said "And it’s not like we haven’t defeated India enough. I think we’ve beaten them on a couple of occasions, on a lot of occasions, in fact."
Bouncer is offline  
Old 22-10-2006, 06:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
Request Your Custom Title Now!
 
Mr Mxyzptlk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad)
Posts: 36,795
It depends on the situation tbh. If the West Indies lose 2 wickets for not too many, I'd prefer to see Lara in there before anyone else in the team It's not like he's incapable of playing the swinging ball. Ideally, he should come in when he can face the bulk of the spinners though. It really depends on what sort of start WI can procure.
__________________
Sreesanth said, "Next ball he was beaten and I said, 'is this the King Charles Lara? Who is this impostor, moving around nervously? I should have kept my mouth shut for the next ball - mind you, it was a length ball - Lara just pulled it over the church beyond the boundary! He is a true legend."

Mr Mxyzptlk is offline  
Old 22-10-2006, 06:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
Banned
 
Pratters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kolkata, India
Posts: 20,794
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bouncer
Brian batted lower down the order against the Aussies and played an inning that took WI to a winning total. and i am thinking if he does the same thing in India game he has a better chance of making things work for Windians.
It depends on the pitch to a large extent. The kind of pitch which existed in the earlier match, it made a lot of sense for Lara to come in later. However, in one day cricket, you want your best players batting higher up so that they can face the maximum overs in most cases.
Pratters is offline  
Old 22-10-2006, 01:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
School Boy/Girl Captain
 
leepayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Norwich, England
Posts: 100
I'm a firm believer that Brian Lara should come in at number three in the batting order. He can play a holding role, because he can stay at the crease and score a century while nobody further down really jumps out and says that to me.
leepayne is offline  
Old 22-10-2006, 03:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canada
Posts: 110
lara has the best record on number 3 position, through most of the 90's he batted at number 3 and his average at number 3 in near 50, though i would like too see lara to also open batting some times. he was a great opener at the beginning of his career in the early 90's
dubai194 is offline  
Old 22-10-2006, 06:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
Cricket Web Content Updater
 
roseboy64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Jamaica
Posts: 18,549
Lara said one factor in him coming lower was to spread experience since Shiv was out.
__________________
Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson = Greatest Ever Manager
"One from ten leaves zero." - Eric Williams, former T&T PM
Member of Cricket Web Green
Member of Northside Power

R.I.P Fardin Qayyumi
roseboy64 is offline  
Old 23-10-2006, 03:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
Hall of Fame Member
 
honestbharani's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Columbus, IN
Posts: 15,208
wat's wrong with this order though?


Gayle
Morton
Lara
Sarwan
Shiv
etc.
__________________
We miss you, Fardin. :(. RIP.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
In the end, I think it's so utterly, incomprehensibly boring. There is so much context behind each innings of cricket that dissecting statistics into these small samples is just worthless. No-one has ever been faced with the same situation in which they come out to bat as someone else. Ever.
A cricket supporter forever

Member of CW Red and AAAS - Appreciating only the best.


Check out this awesome e-fed:

PWE Efed
honestbharani is offline  
Old 23-10-2006, 06:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
Request Your Custom Title Now!
 
Jono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virat Kohli
Posts: 47,482
I'd still open the Shiv. Gayle and Shiv seem like they enjoy batting together.

Gayle
Shiv
Lara
Morton
Sarwan

Sarwan has shown he can bat late before in his career, and Lara is one of the GOAT, give him as many overs to face as possible.
Jono is offline  
Old 23-10-2006, 10:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
The Wheel is Forever
 
silentstriker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 36,510
On spinner friendly pitches in the subcontinent, I would rather have Lara bat when the spinners come on, meaning #5 or so.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KungFu_Kallis View Post
Peter Siddle top scores in both innings....... Matthew Wade gets out twice in one ball
"The future light cone of the next Indian fast bowler is exactly the same as the past light cone of the previous one"
-My beliefs summarized in words much more eloquent than I could come up with

How the Universe came from nothing
silentstriker is offline  
Old 23-10-2006, 09:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
International Coach
 
tooextracool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: not far away from you
Posts: 14,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
I'd still open the Shiv. Gayle and Shiv seem like they enjoy batting together.

Gayle
Shiv
Lara
Morton
Sarwan

Sarwan has shown he can bat late before in his career, and Lara is one of the GOAT, give him as many overs to face as possible.
all i can say is that as long as chanderpaul opens the batting, that is quite an impressive top 5. its an interesting one to decide 3-4-5, but i think Morton cant come in anywhere after 3 because he really needs to be given as much time as possible in the middle and isnt much of a middle-late overs player unless hes set. The Lara-Sarwan combo would probably vary depending on the situation, but while i would really like to see Sarwan batting higher up in the order because hes a good enough player i think hes probably the better player to be able to accomodate himself at 5 than Lara is.
__________________
Tendulkar = the most overated player EVER!!
Beckham = the most overated footballer EVER!!
Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!
tooextracool is offline  
Old 24-10-2006, 03:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
Request Your Custom Title Now!
 
Mr Mxyzptlk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad)
Posts: 36,795
Quote:
Originally Posted by dubai194
lara has the best record on number 3 position
Wrong. He has his best record (in a position he's played often in) opening the batting.
Mr Mxyzptlk is offline  
Old 24-10-2006, 04:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
International Coach
 
tooextracool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: not far away from you
Posts: 14,304
yes unfortunately for the benefit of the team lara has had to sacrifice his best position and take up the responsiblity in the middle order in ODIs. Its a pity because had he not done so, he might have ended up amongst the Bevans, Tendulkars and Richards as one of the top ODI players ever.
tooextracool is offline  
Old 24-10-2006, 11:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
Cricket Spectator
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: INDIA
Posts: 26
Icon11 Lara

HE SHOULD ALWAYS AT 3RD
winneer123 is offline  
Old 25-10-2006, 10:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
Request Your Custom Title Now!
 
Mr Mxyzptlk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad)
Posts: 36,795
Quote:
Originally Posted by winneer123
HE SHOULD ALWAYS AT 3RD
Please ease up on Caps lock.
Mr Mxyzptlk is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is Brian Lara the best choice of W Indies? Mohammadasif Cricket Chat 4 24-08-2006 03:01 AM
Lists Kimbo Off Topic 16 18-11-2002 03:22 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:23 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright ©2001 - 2011, Cricket Web