**Official** Semi Finals and Final - Page 5

Sir Redman · 29-10-2006, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Retox

NZ seem to stand up VS Australia players like Styris,McCullum,Vettori & Bond.

McCullum, Vettori and Bond I'll give you, but Styris is a big choker vs Australia. Averages 16 from 20 games against them. Until he scored that hundred in our last game against them it was even worse - 202 runs at 11.88 from 19 games. In the last few years Fleming's also been a failure vs Aus, McGrath and Lee have been all over him. Generally speaking, our batsmen seem to wilt vs Australia but our bowlers seem to do a bit better.

Retox · 29-10-2006, 11:57 PM

I always thought he did better.. Hmm. Nevermind that then

Time for Fulton to stand up then

honestbharani · 30-10-2006, 12:49 AM

My pick is Australia Vs RSA in the finals, Australia to sneak through in a close match and take home the only trophy they have never won.

Sir Redman · 30-10-2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Retox

Time for Fulton to stand up then

And Marshall. And Oram. And Vincent and Astle and Mills and Patel...

I'm not too confident about this game to be honest. Our batting has looked far too shaky this tournament. Too reliant on Fleming.

Retox · 30-10-2006, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Redman

And Marshall. And Oram. And Vincent and Astle and Mills and Patel...

I'm not too confident about this game to be honest. Our batting has looked far too shaky this tournament. Too reliant on Fleming.

Mills and Patel have been bowling well.
Vincent is hit and miss but he needs to fire
Marshall I agree with
Can't complain about Oram based on his last game
Astle is coming to the end of it, After the world cup he is gone.

Steulen · 30-10-2006, 03:51 AM

Have to agree that it's very likely Australia will take this one missing trophy home, now they've managed to get out of their group. A big win over the Kiwis and revenge over the Windies in a close final, I'd say.

Bahnz · 30-10-2006, 06:37 AM

It's starting to look like Styris might be injured and out of the competition, which means Ross Taylor will replace him in the squad. Do you reckon he should be included in the team, if this occurs? On the one hand a semi-final against Australia is a big step up for a young kid who won't have played competitively for 7 or 8 months. On the other, he's got a lot of talent, and both Marshall and particularly Fulton have been in poor form.

I'd give him a go, personally. The more chances he gets to prove himself in pressure conditions before the world cup, the better. Having said all that, I now predict Styris will make a full recovery by Wednesday.

Poker Boy · 30-10-2006, 07:35 AM

Who would have thought it - no Asian team in SF of an Asian hosted tournament? What a contrast with SL 2002. As for what we've got the days back in the 2002 VB series when NZ were a jinx to Australia are long gone - add the fact that Fleming is easy meat for McGrath and it should be Australia. The other SF is closer but WI to edge it. I think Jaipur suits their batting strength - had it been in seamer-friendly Mohali SA would have been my tip. As for the Final - a repeat of the 1975 WC F -but with a different result.

Perm · 30-10-2006, 01:39 PM

Scott Syris is out of the Semifinal against Australia, atleast that is what I heard on the radio this morning. No word on whether or not Ross Taylor has officially replaced him in the squad, but if he is the replacement for Styris I wouldn't throw him at the Australian's, tempting as it may be. While Fulton hasn't been in the best of form he is a class player and should be given another chance, Vincent will go out cheaply trying to play a big shot after McGrath has tied him down for a few overs.

Really, it's not looking that positive for the Black Caps and unless Bond is fully fit and bowls well I can see is losing but a reasonable margin. I am predicting Bond to destroy the Australian top order but I think that players like Clarke, Symonds and Hussey will have too much class for us if we do run through the top order. I'm predicting Australia and South Africa to win, with Australia winning the final.

Tim · 30-10-2006, 02:44 PM

Its almost certain that Taylor will replace Styris for the rest of the tournament. It will be tempting for Bracewell to chuck Taylor in the semi final because he's a flair player and there's a chance he could come off. But we should not be in this position because Hamish Marshall should have form behind him due to a season of County cricket.

I reckon they'll go for Hamish Marshall.

Matt52 · 30-10-2006, 03:09 PM

I think they will go for Marshall too, although I heard he missed the last game with a virus, so Taylor has a chance. It will be interesting.

aussie · 30-10-2006, 03:25 PM

The Bond vs the Australian top-order should be interesting, especially with Ponting. Hopefully bloody Bond is fit

Tim · 30-10-2006, 03:48 PM

Bracewell pretty much shot himself in the foot too by playing Franklin for the entire tournament and not giving Gillespie a go. His only real option is to replace Franklin with Patel now.

Tim · 30-10-2006, 03:48 PM

I wouldn't discount Vettori vs Australia either. He's had a pretty ordinary tournament but usually he saves his best for Australia.

Matt52 · 30-10-2006, 04:20 PM

Bracewell took a long time to put McCullum into the test team as well. Robbie Hart played for quite a few games. He did OK but McCullum was clearly the better player. Bracewell doesnt seem to go much on form, or talent or who was the best player or who is likely to win us the most games, or ...........anything else except who was ikn the team last time......, OK, maybe i am being a bit harsh but it seems difficult for him to change the team. Marshall is an example .........

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30-10-2006, 06:37 AM	#67 (permalink)
Bahnz International Captain Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On top of a pile of money, surrounded by many beautiful women Posts: 5,236	It's starting to look like Styris might be injured and out of the competition, which means Ross Taylor will replace him in the squad. Do you reckon he should be included in the team, if this occurs? On the one hand a semi-final against Australia is a big step up for a young kid who won't have played competitively for 7 or 8 months. On the other, he's got a lot of talent, and both Marshall and particularly Fulton have been in poor form. I'd give him a go, personally. The more chances he gets to prove himself in pressure conditions before the world cup, the better. Having said all that, I now predict Styris will make a full recovery by Wednesday.

30-10-2006, 02:44 PM	#70 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Its almost certain that Taylor will replace Styris for the rest of the tournament. It will be tempting for Bracewell to chuck Taylor in the semi final because he's a flair player and there's a chance he could come off. But we should not be in this position because Hamish Marshall should have form behind him due to a season of County cricket. I reckon they'll go for Hamish Marshall.

30-10-2006, 03:09 PM	#71 (permalink)
Matt52 U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 555	I think they will go for Marshall too, although I heard he missed the last game with a virus, so Taylor has a chance. It will be interesting.

30-10-2006, 03:25 PM	#72 (permalink)
aussie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cricket Posts: 16,845	The Bond vs the Australian top-order should be interesting, especially with Ponting. Hopefully bloody Bond is fit

30-10-2006, 03:48 PM	#73 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Bracewell pretty much shot himself in the foot too by playing Franklin for the entire tournament and not giving Gillespie a go. His only real option is to replace Franklin with Patel now.

30-10-2006, 03:48 PM	#74 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	I wouldn't discount Vettori vs Australia either. He's had a pretty ordinary tournament but usually he saves his best for Australia.

30-10-2006, 04:20 PM	#75 (permalink)
Matt52 U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 555	Bracewell took a long time to put McCullum into the test team as well. Robbie Hart played for quite a few games. He did OK but McCullum was clearly the better player. Bracewell doesnt seem to go much on form, or talent or who was the best player or who is likely to win us the most games, or ...........anything else except who was ikn the team last time......, OK, maybe i am being a bit harsh but it seems difficult for him to change the team. Marshall is an example .........

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