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Old 08-10-2006, 08:04 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Sensible stuff for me. Fred's his own worst enemy sometimes, has a heart the size of a house & it's clearly to the detriment of his health sometimes. I hop Big Dunc keeps the great man on a tight leash if things (as they inevitably will) go wrong in the CT & we need a wicket. It doesn't take a genius to work out Fred will be champing at the bit to get the ball in his hand.
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This mickey mouse tourney is just prep for the Ashes, Fred and Fletch won't be risking anything.
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What about Dalrymple??

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You shouldn't get so worked up about a meaningless ODI tournament, we aren't and it's our team ffs.

Well if you are Duncan Fletcher then ODIs are merely about blooding test match specialists to see if they are good enough in the test format.However despite the fact that its taken him so long to realise it, i have to say that this England ODI side looks somewhat competitive now. Read is finally back into the ODI side and provides something different down the order, while Michael Yardy on first looks looks like the flexible player they've never had. Further more they've finally selected John Lewis after ridiculously dropping him after one game and he provides some well needed control in the bowling department along with Flintoff and Anderson. the only 2 weak points are strauss and collingwood but i think they can be covered up sufficiently. it would have helped had they picked a side like this some 2 years ago so that they had time to develop as players but instead they were too busy picking the likes of Clarke, key, mcgrath, plunkett and mahmood.
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This England team is woefully lacking in balance. None of the batsmen can bowl. None of the bowlers can bat.
none other than dalrymple and yardy of course?
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Well if you are Duncan Fletcher then ODIs are merely about blooding test match specialists to see if they are good enough in the test format.However despite the fact that its taken him so long to realise it, i have to say that this England ODI side looks somewhat competitive now. Read is finally back into the ODI side and provides something different down the order, while Michael Yardy on first looks looks like the flexible player they've never had. Further more they've finally selected John Lewis after ridiculously dropping him after one game and he provides some well needed control in the bowling department along with Flintoff and Anderson. the only 2 weak points are strauss and collingwood but i think they can be covered up sufficiently. it would have helped had they picked a side like this some 2 years ago so that they had time to develop as players but instead they were too busy picking the likes of Clarke, key, mcgrath, plunkett and mahmood.
Do you really give a ****? Nobody I know does. I mean, it's nice to have some cricket to watch whilst we await the Ashes, but this and any other ODI set of games is just warm up for the only ODI tourney that matters, next year in the WI.

Even then I'd rather retain the Ashes than win the World Cup.

The ICCCCCCT is a bit of a laugh tbh.
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Do you really give a ****? Nobody I know does. I mean, it's nice to have some cricket to watch whilst we await the Ashes, but this and any other ODI set of games is just warm up for the only ODI tourney that matters, next year in the WI.

Even then I'd rather retain the Ashes than win the World Cup.

The ICCCCCCT is a bit of a laugh tbh.
Well its this sort of attitude thats the reason why England are the only team in the top 8 to have never won a major trophy. Infact we have to go all the way back to Sharjah 97 for the last time we wont a an ODI series with more than 2 teams playing(That didnt include zimbabwe).
It may very well be the warm up for the World cup, and it might not be as important as the Ashes but how on earth can anyone contemplate winning the world cup if less than a year before when only 3 players have over 50 caps?
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And who cares about ODI tournaments? They mean **** all.

It's "this sort of attitude" that won the Ashes last summer after 16 years, that's all I give a toss about, that and other Test series'. Are you honestly going to tell me you remember, or give a toss about last years, and the year before that's ODI results?

I'll enjoy our little group outing for what it is, preparation for the Ashes and a run out for Fred.
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Well if you are Duncan Fletcher then ODIs are merely about blooding test match specialists to see if they are good enough in the test format.However despite the fact that its taken him so long to realise it, i have to say that this England ODI side looks somewhat competitive now. Read is finally back into the ODI side and provides something different down the order, while Michael Yardy on first looks looks like the flexible player they've never had. Further more they've finally selected John Lewis after ridiculously dropping him after one game and he provides some well needed control in the bowling department along with Flintoff and Anderson. the only 2 weak points are strauss and collingwood but i think they can be covered up sufficiently. it would have helped had they picked a side like this some 2 years ago so that they had time to develop as players but instead they were too busy picking the likes of Clarke, key, mcgrath, plunkett and mahmood.

I actually think England have the makings of quite a decent ODI side....as you said, Yardy and Dalrymple give them a lot of flexibility and when Trescothick returns and Flintoff resumes bowling, they could be very competitive come March/April next year.
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Well if you are Duncan Fletcher then ODIs are merely about blooding test match specialists to see if they are good enough in the test format.However despite the fact that its taken him so long to realise it, i have to say that this England ODI side looks somewhat competitive now. Read is finally back into the ODI side and provides something different down the order, while Michael Yardy on first looks looks like the flexible player they've never had. Further more they've finally selected John Lewis after ridiculously dropping him after one game and he provides some well needed control in the bowling department along with Flintoff and Anderson. the only 2 weak points are strauss and collingwood but i think they can be covered up sufficiently. it would have helped had they picked a side like this some 2 years ago so that they had time to develop as players but instead they were too busy picking the likes of Clarke, key, mcgrath, plunkett and mahmood.
TEC tempts fate once too often.

Seriously, shocking call to drop Lewis, especially with the movement Munaf & Pathan got.
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Doubt there will be much swing in WI, and if it ain't swinging he's fodder. No, they've done right for a change in using this as practice for the WC which is what ODIs are for, and Lewis won't be playing in it barring a massive injury crisis.

India are doing it wrong by using Powar, he'll do nowt in the WI they should be playing Sreesanth, but winning a mickey mouse tourney seems to take precedence for some reason.
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