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Old 16-10-2006, 07:16 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Somebody give this man a medal. Totally agree.

Edit: Voltman, do you know Jonathan Millmow? If so, give him a kick up the bum for being so negative about our bowlers.
For me it should read like....

Edit: "Adharcric/Jono or any other Indian fan on this site", do you know SS? If so, give him a kick up the bum for being so negative about our bowlers.
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Old 16-10-2006, 07:22 PM   #182 (permalink)
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For me it should read like....

Edit: "Adharcric/Jono or any other Indian fan on this site", do you know SS? If so, give him a kick up the bum for being so negative about our bowlers.

You had a typo:

Edit: "Adharcric/Jono or any other Indian fan on this site", do you know SS? If so, give him a kick up the bum for being so realistic about our bowlers.
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Old 16-10-2006, 07:25 PM   #183 (permalink)
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You had a typo:

Edit: "Adharcric/Jono or any other Indian fan on this site", do you know SS? If so, give him a kick up the bum for being so realistic about our bowlers.
Should I be scared, I actually laughed at your post!
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Old 16-10-2006, 07:36 PM   #184 (permalink)
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Ok, I'm confused. Whose bowlers are we talking about now?
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Old 16-10-2006, 08:29 PM   #185 (permalink)
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Very disappointing to see us get skittled like that, but I agree that it's good to see some pitches where the bowlers can get on top and make the batsmen work for their runs.

Having said that though, If Murali would have been bowling on that track, his balls would have pitched and turned to square leg.
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Old 16-10-2006, 09:05 PM   #186 (permalink)
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I have a feeling a few of the pitches in the World Cup will be like this so things like fielding and bowling discipline will be extremely important. Those are probably 2 of New Zealand's better strengths in ODI cricket.
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Old 16-10-2006, 09:37 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Great win last night. Probably should not have stayed up to watch it - should be attending uni lectures in preparation for exams!

Bowling and fielding, top class. Patel is going to be the worlds next big spinner, providing he can bowl like that on more batter friendly wickets. Is any any relation to Dipak?

I still doubt whether NZ can win the tournament though, we can not have Fleming holding the innings together on his own every game.

Astle needs to CALM DOWN! Pure and simple. Get some drugs into him or something. The game last night proved that you do not need to bash the ball from the get go to make a competitive score in this tournament. Hopefully he learns for next time, and he plays a bit more conservitatevely. (Thats not spelt right is it)

The other top order bastman also need to value their wicket a bit more. They were soft dismissals, especially by those who played on to their stumps.

Having said that, bring on Sri Lanka. If we can improve our batting, we may just be a force this summer.
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Old 16-10-2006, 09:39 PM   #188 (permalink)
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I expect Sri Lanka to win Group B and NZ to be second (with a single loss to SL). In Group A, it will be Oz and India in that order. In the semis, India to beat SL and Oz to beat NZ. In the finals, Oz to thrash India.
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Old 16-10-2006, 10:22 PM   #189 (permalink)
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Without Ahktar and Asif, Pakistan don't stand much of a chance anymore.
Please stop making such closed statements. Pakistan still have some quality batsmen and good reserve bowlers, and could well give Sri Lanka a fright.


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Please stop making such closed statements. Pakistan still have some quality batsmen and good reserve bowlers, and could well give Sri Lanka a fright.


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I'm being realistic. Pakistan have a good batting line up but without their 2 best bowlers (and best bowlers by far might I add) they don't have a great chance of defending whatever their batsmen set up for them. Wouldn't be surprised if Sri Lanka lost to them tonight, I just think they no longer have a chance of winning the tournament.

You cannot win an international tournament with a pack of average bowlers.
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Personally, I think Pakistan - knowing them - are more likely to come out and win it now, than if they had their full squad.
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I think the loss of Ahktar and Asif will greatly dent their confidence in all departments. It'll be a magnificent achievement if they win it from here.
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Personally, I think Pakistan - knowing them - are more likely to come out and win it now, than if they had their full squad.
I think that's a pretty fair comment, we all know how flaky Pakistan can be at times but this could really give them a shake up and urge them to perform like they should be all the time. They have some world class players in their lineup and I wouldn't at all be suprised if they really got stuck in and won.

And in response to somebody's earlier question, Jeetan Patel is no relation to Dipak. Just both very handy off-spinners. Would be great it Fleming pulls a Crowe and decides to open the bowling with Patel, especially on these slow and sluggish pitches. With Patel's ability to bowl at the death he should be able to contain the batsman for a start. Just an interesting idea that I would love to see put into play.
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Yes! Great stuff NZ! Mills certainly turning into an excellent ODI bowler now (never thought I'd say that!)

Jeetan owled great as well, even if most of his wickets were tailenders.

SA was the team I was the most worried about. Now that we've beaten them, I'm very confident about our chances.
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I think that's a pretty fair comment, we all know how flaky Pakistan can be at times but this could really give them a shake up and urge them to perform like they should be all the time. They have some world class players in their lineup and I wouldn't at all be suprised if they really got stuck in and won.

And in response to somebody's earlier question, Jeetan Patel is no relation to Dipak. Just both very handy off-spinners. Would be great it Fleming pulls a Crowe and decides to open the bowling with Patel, especially on these slow and sluggish pitches. With Patel's ability to bowl at the death he should be able to contain the batsman for a start. Just an interesting idea that I would love to see put into play.
Wouldn`t make heaps of sense when the Kiwis have three bowlers who love the new-ball.
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