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    England 14 man squad for ICC trophy

    Michael Vaughan (c)
    Kabir Ali
    James Anderson
    Gareth Batty
    Paul Collingwood
    Andrew Flintoff
    Ashley Giles
    Darren Gough
    Steven Harmison
    Geraint Jones
    Anthony McGrath
    Vikram Solanki
    Andrew Strauss
    Marcus Trescothick

    No Ian Bell, surprsingly. No Ian Blackwell despite showing good recent form. I'm surprised to see McGrath still there. Nice to see Kabir Ali getting another chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gio
    Kabir Ali
    Gareth Batty
    Vikram Solanki
    was chris on the selection panel???
    well i guess all of them bar batty deserve another shot though....

    Quote Originally Posted by gio
    Paul Collingwood
    IMO this should be his last chance to prove himself....

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    Geraint Jones
    personally i would have gone for read....

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    Anthony McGrath
    how many times does he have to fail to be dropped?

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    No Ian Bell, surprsingly
    yes the batting failed miserably in the natwest series and im extremely surprised to see that they've only brought in one new batsman, whos failed in the past....
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    To me putting a Team like that sends one clear message, England (or the selectors) have no intention of winning the ICC trophy, let alone competing strongly.

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    Why do people have a go at Batty so much.
    OK he hasnt set the world alight YET at international level but he's hardly played THAT many games has he? if Giles can basically get as many chances as he got then i dont see why Batty cant get a few more. He regularly takes wickets on any surface for worcestershire and is a fantastic fielder and useful batsmen.

    As for Solanki he's in the form of his life atm for worcs and isnt the same batsmen that played vs SA last year so deserves a chance. Kabir Ali im shocked at cos last season he deserved this but this season he hasnt really set the world alight since coming back from double hernia surgery.

    As for the others its great to see Blackwell and Clark finally told to work on it in county cricket for a while but WHAT THE F**K is Mcgrath still there? im sure he and giles have some sort of blackmail material on someone in the ECB

    Im not surprised Bell isnt there given his poor one day average (but then again thats not stopped them picking players like that before).
    Jones deserves more chance to prove himself at one dayers b4 we Read gets another call up. As for batsmen im shocked no one else was called up, but maybe they have 1 eye on Pieterson becoming avaliable and joining the squad for the Zimbabwe games.
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    Out of the three Worcestershire players, there's only one I would have chosen - Gareth Batty. There are no other options as a second spinner.

    Solanki - aargh. Kabir - aargh (though not as loudly as the last one, and I am asking which other seamer could have been picked, and there's only really Jon Lewis, so I suppose it's not too bad a choice).

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    Solanki and Kabir are excellent players

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.hinton
    Solanki and Kabir are excellent players
    No, they're not. If they were they'd never have been dropped.

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    Ali never bowled for England in ODI cricket, and did well in his only test. Then he got injured. I think he has potential to be a future test regular.

    There is another option to Gareth Batty: Graeme Swann. He bowls really well, has done well recently batting wise and is an athletic fielder. Another Northants player snubbed by the ECB...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    No, they're not. If they were they'd never have been dropped.
    Is this team going to be used in the Natwest Challenge against India too? IMO, if it is a batsman then India is a very good team to try him against as 270 is a par score against India. I would have loved to seen Bell against India and also don't be surprised if Solanki scores highly too. You can never say anything with the Indian bowling

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    was chris on the selection panel???
    well i guess all of them bar batty deserve another shot though....
    Vikram Solanki does NOT deserve an extra shot.

    The only one who does is Kabir, because he didn't actually do anything wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    Ian Bell is the unluckiest guy alive.
    Agh!

    I'm agreeing with the Ginger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey
    Why do people have a go at Batty so much.
    OK he hasnt set the world alight YET at international level but he's hardly played THAT many games has he?
    But when he has played alongside Giles on very helpful wickets, he was an embarassment.

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    As for Solanki he's in the form of his life atm for worcs and isnt the same batsmen that played vs SA last year so deserves a chance.
    And the Solanki we saw last summer was supposedly a different one from the one we first saw in International Cricket.

    He's also (another) opener - we already have 3 competing for those 2 spots!
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    Quote Originally Posted by V Reddy
    I would have loved to seen Bell against India and also don't be surprised if Solanki scores highly too.

    Barring injuries, he won't play (I hope)

    Even if he does, I doubt we'll notice it, and the only person who'll be happy he's selected will be McGrath (if he's picked)

    At least McGrath will have company as the worst player on the side then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    But when he has played alongside Giles on very helpful wickets, he was an embarassment.



    And the Solanki we saw last summer was supposedly a different one from the one we first saw in International Cricket.

    He's also (another) opener - we already have 3 competing for those 2 spots!
    he doesnt open in the 4 day game though so he can bat with the older ball so its not a problem for him to come in lower down the order.

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