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Old 02-08-2004, 04:39 AM   #16 (permalink)
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yeh Haddin is certainly the next best keeper batsman, really i dont think theres anyone else to fill the void in 1 day cricket....
I watched him in a couple of games and he was pretty terrible with the gloves.
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He has improved in all areas especially his batting. His glovework is up to standard, besides who would you select ahead of him?
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He has improved in all areas especially his batting. His glovework is up to standard, besides who would you select ahead of him?
thats my point, i dont think Haddin is all that great, but quite simply the guys behind him arent up to scratch to play one day international cricket....
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Like offering joints to get people into the ground?

Or maybe give them a free bicyle as an incentive to go to the game?
No stereotyping there then?

I guess Liam and you will be attending the series with those incentives?
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thats my point, i dont think Haddin is all that great, but quite simply the guys behind him arent up to scratch to play one day international cricket....
There is no way Haddin is a better keeper/batsman than Campbell. Christ! Manou would be a better selection than Haddin. Once again this is a case of the selectors reluctance to look outside N.S.W.
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yeh Haddin is certainly the next best keeper batsman, really i dont think theres anyone else to fill the void in 1 day cricket....
WHich doesn't say much about Australia's wicket keeping stocks.
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No stereotyping there then?

I guess Liam and you will be attending the series with those incentives?
I don't know about Liam, unfortunatly I won't be going (have always wanted to go to Holland).
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That's assuming they beat Pakistan - recent form suggests that's not a foregone conclusion.
If youre talking of foregone conclusions , maybe India doesnt even need to beat Pakistan .
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Manou lol, hes got nothing, im not confident enough with campbells keeping, seccombe doesnt score fast enough, clingleffer is just rank and that leaves Haddin as a best of the rest.

maybe this Chirs Hartley bloke will be good in a few years....
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Manou lol, hes got nothing, im not confident enough with campbells keeping, seccombe doesnt score fast enough, clingleffer is just rank and that leaves Haddin as a best of the rest.

maybe this Chirs Hartley bloke will be good in a few years....
Chris Hartley is ready now.

Fair enough Secombe doesn't score fast enough, but at least he scores.
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well why isnt hartley playing FC cricket?
theres no way they would throw him into the Aus ODI squad when hes not even his states first choice!
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Yes, I presume you're saying he's ready for FC Cricket?
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Chris Hartley is ready now.

Fair enough Secombe doesn't score fast enough, but at least he scores.
Doesnt really need to score terribly fast anyway, someone else can fill the openers role.
I dunno, perhaps Im being a bit harsh on Haddin, but I definately agree with Mr Wright in saying Campbell is miles infront of Haddin 'keeping wise, and batting wise. Although, I think hes actually undergone surgery so he's probably out. I just dont think Haddin is much good with the gloves, thats all. If they were picking him as a batsman, I wouldnt care much one way or the other.
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well why isnt hartley playing FC cricket?
theres no way they would throw him into the Aus ODI squad when hes not even his states first choice!
You said he would be ready in a few years, hell he's ready now. Only thing is Secombe will stay on for a few years yet, or maybe he will be unselfish and step aside. However, while Secombe still has a realistic (while ever so slight) chance of making the Australian side, he will stay on.

But Hartley is definitely Australia's next long term option as national keeper.
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