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Which ATG unit is a better nucleus for a side?

Better Core Unit


  • Total voters
    22

subshakerz

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Picking a team, which of these core cricket units are best assuming the rest of the team is minnow level players.

Morris, Bradman, Harvey, Miller, Lindwall, Ian Johnson

Greenidge, Lloyd, Viv, Marshall, Holding, Walsh

Hayden, Ponting, S Waugh, McWarne, Gillespie
 

ataraxia

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I think lambasting subz here is unreasonable. The Invincibles are often rated as worse than the great WI/Aus teams, and this comparison isn't much different.
 

capt_Luffy

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I think lambasting subz here is unreasonable. The Invincibles are often rated as worse than the great WI/Aus teams, and this comparison isn't much different.
I think the Invincibles in particular were better though. They in general are rated lower for longevity
 

Johan

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I think WI bowling is notably superior
the actual output difference of the notably superior bowling would be peanuts in comparison to the different in batting output. Plus Invincibles have more variety, West Indies often struggled as for slow dead wickets their spin options were Clyde Butts and Viv Richards, Australia can have Johnston and Johnson bowl top level spin.
 

subshakerz

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the actual output difference of the notably superior bowling would be peanuts in comparison to the different in batting output. Plus Invincibles have more variety, West Indies often struggled as for slow dead wickets their spin options were Clyde Butts and Viv Richards, Australia can have Johnston and Johnson bowl top level spin.
Not sure about that the quartet were proven on a variety of surfaces.

Anyways back to this comparison, I think Marshall, Holding Walsh give more value to a side than the batting advantage for the Invincibles selected.
 

Johan

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Not sure about that the quartet were proven on a variety of surfaces.

Anyways back to this comparison, I think Marshall, Holding Walsh give more value to a side than the batting advantage for the Invincibles selected.
Lindwall, Miller and Johnston emulate three pacers of sub 23 average, which is what Walsh, Holding and Marshall are. The latter's advantage is there and clear but it's marginal, and then Invincibles have a huge advantage in spin variety and batting.
 

Coronis

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Lindwall, Miller and Johnston emulate three pacers of sub 23 average, which is what Walsh, Holding and Marshall are. The latter's advantage is there and clear but it's marginal, and then Invincibles have a huge advantage in spin variety and batting.
Ok.
 

shortpitched713

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Definitely averaging 99.94 in any circumstance SSJ Bradman would make this an easy choice, but a more realistic mortal Bradman makes the comparison more interesting.

McGrath is the best bowler of the group, and I think that is what leans it for be between that side and the West Indies one.
 

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