It's by no means weak, but isn't outstanding either, given it was his home and he played them on plenty helpful surfaces. So yeah, Lillee is a English bully.Dude follow the conversation. It's 27 thanks to an injured test in WI. Otherwise it's 55 wicket in 11 tests @25 with a sub 50 SR.
I don't call that ATY but it's by no means a weak record like Johan is pretending against the best side at the time.
Lillee terrorized strong wi in 75/76 with Llyod rowe, fedricks kalicharan and viv in itIt's by no means weak, but isn't outstanding either, given it was his home and he played them on plenty helpful surfaces. So yeah, Lillee is a English bully.
got 27 wickets @ 26Lillee terrorized strong wi in 75/76 with Llyod rowe, fedricks kalicharan and viv in it
He got Viv's wicket 9 times in 11 tests, a better rate than McGrath against Lara and Tendulkar.Lillee terrorized strong wi in 75/76 with Llyod rowe, fedricks kalicharan and viv in it
Baby VivHe got Viv's wicket 9 times in 11 tests, a better rate than McGrath against Lara and Tendulkar.
It's pretty ridiculous the extent some here want to minimize Lillee.
There is no way either of the two were "better" than Bumrah.Meh, Bumrah beat Trueman and I'm the kind of petty who'd switch vote from Lillee to Bumrah to make sure Bumrah beats DKL too.
I find it hard to say 27@26 in some of the fiercest pitches is "terrorizing". As I said, his WI record is Very Good but not Great.Lillee terrorized strong wi in 75/76 with Llyod rowe, fedricks kalicharan and viv in it
Lol his peak started the same series, you know that.Baby Viv
Quality is worthless without the quantityThere is no way either of the two were "better" than Bumrah.
One of his biggest selling points you highlight is his peer reputation, which many here don't take seriously.He got Viv's wicket 9 times in 11 tests, a better rate than McGrath against Lara and Tendulkar.
It's pretty ridiculous the extent some here want to minimize Lillee.
I mean, not necessarily less wickets if someone can bowl much longerI disagree slightly. I don't think a great ER compensates for less overall wickets. I used to.
Yes exactly, Lillee vs WI is very good. It is not a weakness by any means.I find it hard to say 27@26 in some pretty fiery pitches is "terrorizing". As I said, his WI record is Very Good but not Great.
In the last 2 Games, yes. He was dud largely for the first 4 and averaged 37Lol his peak started the same series, you know that.
Yes bowling longer spells to get those wickets can definitely compensate.I mean, not necessarily less wickets if someone can bowl much longer
I mean we can't dismiss his wickets in that series then.In the last 2 Games, yes. He was dud largely for the first 4 and averaged 37
lolBaby Viv
by the end Yes, and last two matches he batted very well, first four not quite so muchLol his peak started the same series, you know that.
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