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Benaud vs Kapil vs Jadeja

Better all rounder in Tests?

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Coronis

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
capt_Luffy said:
How the hell the counts as an allrounder skillset?
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It might for some people. Interesting when looking at the allrounder page on Wikipedia it said Ali Bacher had some statistical thing in 2013 and claimed there had only been 42 genuine allrounders in cricket history. (he ranked Sobers as the greatest, followed by Kallis) However following sources and further searching hasn’t led me to the entire list. Quite curious about the other 40. I believe it was touched on in his book Jacques Kallis and 12 other Great South African Allrounders.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Coronis said:
It might for some people. Interesting when looking at the allrounder page on Wikipedia it said Ali Bacher had some statistical thing in 2013 and claimed there had only been 42 genuine allrounders in cricket history. (he ranked Sobers as the greatest, followed by Kallis) However following sources and further searching hasn’t led me to the entire list. Quite curious about the other 40. I believe it was touched on in his book Jacques Kallis and 12 other Great South African Allrounders.
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That part of the book (not sure if the entirety was) available for free online and I read quite a bit of it. He began with describing that "a true all-rounder" is someone who averages over 40 with the bat and below 30 with the ball, 1 WPM minimum. But with minimum 20 Tests, no one but Aubrey Faulkner (and Eddie Barlow on including the RoW vs ENG Series which originally had Test status) made the cut. So he reduced it to 25 batting and 35 bowling. Well, as a result, Benaud didn't made the cut but Stuart Broad did.
 
Coronis

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
capt_Luffy said:
That part of the book (not sure if the entirety was) available for free online and I read quite a bit of it. He began with describing that "a true all-rounder" is someone who averages over 40 with the bat and below 30 with the ball, 1 WPM minimum. But with minimum 20 Tests, no one but Aubrey Faulkner (and Eddie Barlow on including the RoW vs ENG Series which originally had Test status) made the cut. So he reduced it to 25 batting and 35 bowling. Well, as a result, Benaud didn't made the cut but Stuart Broad did.
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Very generous for it to be described as a statistical analysis imo.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Coronis said:
Very generous for it to be described as a statistical analysis imo.
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He ran an SQL query in a statsguru database.

Matches Played: from 20
Batting Average: from 25
Bowling Average: To 35

And just then add the 1 WPM cut-off.
 
Coronis

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
capt_Luffy said:
He ran an SQL query in a statsguru database.

Matches Played: from 20
Batting Average: from 25
Bowling Average: To 35

And just then add the 1 WPM cut-off.
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FTR Beau Webster

6 matches 367 @ 40.77, 6 wickets @ 26.00, 10 catches
 
sayon basak

sayon basak

Cricketer Of The Year
capt_Luffy said:
That part of the book (not sure if the entirety was) available for free online and I read quite a bit of it. He began with describing that "a true all-rounder" is someone who averages over 40 with the bat and below 30 with the ball, 1 WPM minimum. But with minimum 20 Tests, no one but Aubrey Faulkner (and Eddie Barlow on including the RoW vs ENG Series which originally had Test status) made the cut. So he reduced it to 25 batting and 35 bowling. Well, as a result, Benaud didn't made the cut but Stuart Broad did.
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ATG definition.
 
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