Kohli vs Sachin

[subshakerz]

Sachin is not some great player of fast bowling.
His record against the best pacers of his era is not great. Only averaged 32 against Pakistan when Wasim played.

Misleading though since Wasim rarely if ever dismissed him.

 

[Burgey]

There are reputable scientific studies which show being a vegan reduces a person's abilities in any given vocation by between 25-40%. So if you're a vegan, you're by definition an under performer.

The same studies reveal what everyone already knows - vegans are **** ***** who can't stop telling other people they're vegans within 30 seconds of meeting them. They are the road cyclists of gastronomy and nutrition - inefficient pests who should be culled with extreme prejudice.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Sachin is definitely the better player in Eng and against lateral movement in general(even tho Kohli’s best series there, is along with Dravid 2011, the best tour for an Indian batsmen in Eng). Aus and SA, very close, I’d give Kohli the nod in bouncy conditions overall, since he is clearly the best batsmen to tour SA(having done well in two tours on nightmarish pitches vs Steyn/Morkel/Philander and Philander/Rabada/Morkel/Steyn/Ngidi), and in Aus, it’s pretty close for me since Kohli’s 2014/15 tour is the best for an Indian batsmen in Aus, but Sachin has done well in many tours there(and he did well vs Mcgrath in Aus in 99). If Kohli does decently well vs Cummins and Co once more in Aus, I’d rate him above Sachin there(since he already has one decent tour vs a very good attack in Aus in 2018).Overall Sachin clearly better as of now.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Embarrassing comparison as batsmen in any format. Sachin was two or three levels above Kohli as a test batsman. Kohli is closer in ODIs but still behind sachin because of how little impact he's had in world cups.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Sachin is better at everything. He never had a series like Kohli in England 2014.

Not in Sa, and in bouncing conditions it’s very close(maybe in Kohli’s favour).

 

[Burgey]

Embarrassing comparison as batsmen in any format. Sachin was two or three levels above Kohli as a test batsman. Kohli is closer in ODIs but still behind sachin because of how little impact he's had in world cups.

Yeah Tendulkar sure lifted in those WC finals, eh

 

[subshakerz]

Not in Sa, and in bouncing conditions it’s very close(maybe in Kohli’s favour).

How was Kohli better in those conditions? They both were excellent.

Tendulkar played a lot more than Kohli in SA, including as a teenager which lowered his average.

Tendulkar never struggled with bounce in Australia and faced far more bouncy pitches in the nineties than Kohli, and again also played as a teen.

 

[subshakerz]

Yeah Tendulkar sure lifted in those WC finals, eh

He did have a 2011 semi performance. Kohli has jack.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

He did have a 2011 semi performance. Kohli has jack.

He got dropped like 5 times in that innings but yeah this WC is Kohli's last opportunity

 

[subshakerz]

He got dropped like 5 times in that innings but yeah this WC is Kohli's last opportunity

I agree it wasn't the best but end of the day, Tendulkar has a MOM in a knockout game. Kohli for all his hype hasn't delivered on that stage. He is a king of bilateral bullying.

 

[OverratedSanity]

He did have a 2011 semi performance. Kohli has jack.

Tendulkar had really good performances in 96 sf, 2011 qf, 2011 sf. Kohli done sweet **** all in knockout games. Sachin also arguably the best batsman (or close to it) in 3 separate world cups, Kohli's been outscored by every other decent batsman out there in all his world cups.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Yeah Tendulkar sure lifted in those WC finals, eh

Tendulkar did dominate two WCs and was the second highest scorer in another. Also he has 50+ scores in two semi finals. IMO that makes him the greatest performer in WC history.

 

[Burgey]

Tendulkar did dominate two WCs and was the second highest scorer in another. Also he has 50+ scores in two semi finals. IMO that makes him the greatest performer in WC history.

Sorry what? This is a tragicomedy of a post.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

How was Kohli better in those conditions? They both were excellent.

Tendulkar played a lot more than Kohli in SA, including as a teenager which lowered his average.

Tendulkar never struggled with bounce in Australia and faced far more bouncy pitches in the nineties than Kohli, and again also played as a teen.

I said it’s close, but Kohli’s faced marginally better attacks and done well vs peak Steyn/Philander/Morkel, which is the best ever SA attack(this was in 2013, when people didn’t even take Kohli seriously as a test bat). In 2018 on some of the nightmarish SA pitches ever, Kohli was head and shoulders above all batsmen vs a seriously good attack. Sachin was brilliant in SA, but Kohli’s the best batsmen to visits there. I’m just saying that I might marginally prefer Kohli there, Sachin has no weakness there tho. In Aus, Sachin is still slightly better for me, but Kohli’s 2014/15 was better than any series he had there cause he did face a decent attack and for the sheer run scoring output. I am by no means saying Sachin was weak here, but that Kohli is slightly better in bouncing conditions maybe.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Sorry what? This is a tragicomedy of a post.

He single handedly made India be competent in 1996, had perhaps the single best WC tournament for a batter in 2003(despite failing in the finals). Also was the second highest scorer in a WC victory. Scoring in WC finals isn’t everything.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

However Sachin is clearly a better batsmen against fast bowling than Kohli. It’s just that in bouncy conditions, it’s very close.

 

[subshakerz]

I said it’s close, but Kohli’s faced marginally better attacks and done well vs peak Steyn/Philander/Morkel, which is the best ever SA attack(this was in 2013, when people didn’t even take Kohli seriously as a test bat). In 2018 on some of the nightmarish SA pitches ever, Kohli was head and shoulders above all batsmen vs a seriously good attack. Sachin was brilliant in SA, but Kohli’s the best batsmen to visits there. I’m just saying that I might marginally prefer Kohli there, Sachin has no weakness there tho. In Aus, Sachin is still slightly better for me, but Kohli’s 2014/15 was better than any series he had there cause he did face a decent attack and for the sheer run scoring output. I am by no means saying Sachin was weak here, but that Kohli is slightly better in bouncing conditions maybe.

That's all fine, I think, they are both great in Aus/SA, when I said Tendulkar is better at everything, I was speaking more technically. Though on second thought, I might give Kohli more points on aggression.

 

[OverratedSanity]

That's all fine, I think, they are both great in Aus/SA, when I said Tendulkar is better at everything, I was speaking more technically. Though on second thought, I might give Kohli more points on aggression.

His aggression is what leads to him edging outswingers to second slip every other game. Congrats to him for not being a cowardly defensive batsman with s small dick I guess.

 

[subshakerz]

His aggression is what leads to him edging outswingers to second slip every other game. Congrats to him for not being a cowardly defensive batsman with s small dick I guess.

Yes but when Kohli gets rolling, he would be more feared IMO than Tendulkar, who was always controlled, measured aggression, never getting ahead of himself, which I guess made him more effective.

 

[CricAddict]

Yes but when Kohli gets rolling, he would be more feared IMO than Tendulkar, who was always controlled, measured aggression, never getting ahead of himself, which I guess made him more effective.

Sachin had a few aggressive innings as well in his career. 155 against Australia quickly springs to mind but there were a few others too.