Best Test Team In The World?

[Cruxdude]

Will be interesting the next few tours. Australia to India, India to South Africa and the Ashes. We should have a better idea by the end of the year.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Maybe instead of saying India are the best side in the world it would be more prudent to say that they are the "least worst"

Because people seem to be missing the point.

1.Nobody has compared the current Ind side to the WI/Aus all conquering sides.That would be foolishness of the highest order

2,In a couple of years SA,Aus and Eng may well leave Ind behind in the rankings-bound to happen once Ind's middle order retires.


The 1-1 draw is actually a very credible result.Take out Steyn,Morkel and Smith from the SA side and ask them to draw a series in SL after losing all the tosses....won't be easy I assure you.

But yeah...the SA-Ind series in SA will give us a better idea.I reckon a full strength Ind side have a shot of beating or at least drawing the series in SA.

 

[vcs]

We have shown good ability to bat sensibly through tricky conditions... regardless of what people say about guys like Sehwag, Gambhir and their faulty technique outside the subcontinent. Because of the experience of the senior guys, we tend not to lose too many wickets in a bunch and build partnerships fairly consistently. That's the main reason we do well on wickets that offer something to the bowlers because it means our bowlers don't have to do anything extraordinary to pick up 20 wickets (which they are incapable of).

 

[akilana]

Maybe instead of saying India are the best side in the world it would be more prudent to say that they are the "least worst"

Because people seem to be missing the point.

1.Nobody has compared the current Ind side to the WI/Aus all conquering sides.That would be foolishness of the highest order

2,In a couple of years SA,Aus and Eng may well leave Ind behind in the rankings-bound to happen once Ind's middle order retires.


The 1-1 draw is actually a very credible result.Take out Steyn,Morkel and Smith from the SA side and ask them to draw a series in SL after losing all the tosses....won't be easy I assure you.

But yeah...the SA-Ind series in SA will give us a better idea.I reckon a full strength Ind side have a shot of beating or at least drawing the series in SA.

Why should they? Can India draw in SL without Sachin and Sehwag? Steyn and Smith are easily their best players.

Last time when SA toured SL, they were without Smith and Kallis.. Steyn was early in his development but they were better than the final result which read as 2-0 but SA lost the last test by one wicket. With a bit of luck, it could have gone SA's way. India couldn't do anything when Murali was playing.

Can India win in Australia, let alone after losing tosses in all the matches. SA did.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Can India win in Australia, let alone after losing tosses in all the matches. SA did.

Well, we didn't lose to them at home, for a start.

 

[akilana]

Last 21 months

India series wins - 5, loss -0, drawn - 2

SA series wins - 3, loss - 1, drawn, 3.

Last one year

SA series wins -1, drawn - 2, loss -0
India series wins - 2, drawn - 2, loss - 0

Sorry but recent history just not substantiate that. Unless they start to translate the so called "edge" into performances, hard to call them undisputed no.1.

I'd agree had India lost the ongoing series in Lanka. They didn't and despite contingencies, managed to draw and win the last test in style.

Talking of depth, we showed how we managed to perform without three of our best bowlers and 1 of our best batsmen. Would SA have done the same without G Smith, Dale Steyn, Morne Morkel and Paul Harris in Sri Lanka?

Leave all them. Without Dale Steyn alone, they'd become much lesser side.

It's like saying India is a much lesser side without Sachin. Any side is much lesser without their best player.

 

[akilana]

Well, we didn't lose to them at home, for a start.

after losing all the tosses? I guess we're talking how India did well without their good players and after losing the tosses in an away series so the point India didn't win in Australia stands.

The Indian pitches negates any threat the Australian bowlers pose. Why don't they prepare good fast bowling tracks and try to beat Australia? Let's not go there lol.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Why should they? Can India draw in SL without Sachin and Sehwag? Steyn and Smith are easily their best players..

I daresay we can as we did it w/o Gambhir,our front line seam attack and a bloke who has 350 test wickets.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

but doesn't change the fact they lost in Australia. The Indian pitches negates any threat the Australian bowlers pose. Why don't they prepare good fast bowling tracks and try to beat Australia?

 

[akilana]

I daresay we can as we did it w/o Gambhir,our front line seam attack and a bloke who has 350 test wickets.

No India can't win even a test in SL without Sachin and Sehwag. Harbajan was useless in the series and Ghambir was Malinga's bunny. The reason why India were even able to draw was because Murali retired after the first test.

 

[G.I.Joe]

after losing all the tosses? I guess we're talking how India did well without their good players and after losing the tosses in an away series so the point India didn't win in Australia stands.

The Indian pitches negates any threat the Australian bowlers pose. Why don't they prepare good fast bowling tracks and try to beat Australia? Let's not go there lol.

A boo hoo. Lets help Australia beat us by preparing fast bowling pitches cause they can't do so otherwise. Get real.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

@ akilana-Whatever.You just sound bitter and seem to want to stir up some crap.Enjoy.

 

[G.I.Joe]

The Australian pitches negates any threat the Indian bowlers pose. Why don't they prepare good turning tracks and try to beat India? Let's not go there lol.

OMG, I iz a genius arguer.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

lol..SA won both their tosses in SL last time and still lost 2-0.Let's not bother with facts though

 

[Ikki]

Personally I don't care what type of pitches are prepared so long as they can be reasonably expected to produce a result.

 

[akilana]

You sound bitter that you couldn't beat a SL sans Murali.

Aren't you the one stirring up some craps like team x and y can't win without players z and c but India can win everything.

 

[akilana]

lol..SA won both their tosses in SL last time and still lost 2-0.Let's not bother with facts though

They were without their best two players.. the Sehwag and Sachin of SA and still came close to drawing the series. Mind you Murali was still playing in his peak lol. Get some facts right before you write craps like they can't win without player x and y but India can lol.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

They were without their best two players.. the Sehwag and Sachin of SA and still came close to drawing the series. Mind you Murali was still playing in his peak lol. Get some facts right before you write craps like they can't win without player x and y but India can lol.

Blah blah blah...they won both their tosses,lost 2-0;Ind lost all theirs and squared the series.They had injury probs just like Ind...

Yeah Ind didn't win a series in SL when Murali was around..that's okay though..I'll take that over not having won a single test in 3 countries every day of the week.

No keep editing and re-editing your posts.I am done with this argument

 

[akilana]

You could have celebrated your win instead of going on about how Australia, SA etc can't win without player x and y? Why not just celebrate your win rather than belching craps like that? It sound terribly bitter.

At least they've won series in all countries which some others can't say about their countries. Most aren't as good as you're in predicting. You must have made millions betting.

 

[Cruxdude]

You could have celebrated your win instead of going on about how Australia, SA etc can't win without player x and y? Why not just celebrate your win rather than belching craps like that? It sound terribly bitter.

At least they've won series in all countries which some others can't say about their countries. Most aren't as good as you're in predicting. You must have made millions betting.

Sorry to disabuse you but two guys were talking about who were better India or SA and their argument was a logical one about not playing three front line bowlers and still winning. It is you who is sounding bitter butting your head in here.