2005 Database Idea Thread

Greg Blewett · 22-02-2005, 08:27 PM

Ok this thread is being made so you can voice your opinion over what should be changed in the 2005 database. Not things like the players history or whatver but what changes would you like to see implemented from the original database?

Such as someone being changed to an all-rounder/bowler/bat or somebody's abilities within the game changed to be better or worse or any errors with the original data so that I can fix them for the 2005 update.

Any and all ideas are welcome.

SIX AND OUT · 22-02-2005, 10:01 PM

Michael Clarke - Batting Skill increased
Simon Katich - Bowling increased
Brian Lara - Batting Skill increased
Cameron White - Batting and Bowling increased
Andrew Strauss - Batting Increased
Ashley Giles - Batting decreased
Stephen Harmison - Bowling Increased
Graham Smith - Batting Increased
Andrew Flintoff - Batting and Bowling Increased

Darren Lehmann - All Rounder

Travis Birt, Brendan Joseland updated stats have to be re-updated

Blaze · 22-02-2005, 10:09 PM

Daniel Vettori- Batting Skill Increased
Shane Bond- Bowling Skill Increased
Mark Richardson- Changed to an opener
Kyle Mills- Batting Skill Decreased
Steven Fleming- Batting Skill Increased
Jeff Wilson, Brendon McCullum added to game

Retox · 22-02-2005, 10:22 PM

[QUOTE=SIX AND OUT]Michael Clarke - Batting Skill increased

Graham Smith - Batting Increased

isn't he a spinner is real life but the games say RM

Somerset · 22-02-2005, 10:24 PM

Andrew Symonds to an all-rounder.
Shoaib Malik to an all-rounder and batting stats increased.
Michael Papps added (can't remember him being on the game).
Kyle Mills to a bowler.
James Hildreth added to England and Somerset.
Increase in bowling stats for Chris Cairns.
Decreasing in batting stats for Kyle Mills.
Styris to RM rather than RFM.
Oram to RMF rather than RM.
Decreasing in batting skills for Simon Katich.

That's my five cents worth at this stage anyway.

Blaze · 22-02-2005, 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=Retox]

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIX AND OUT

Michael Clarke - Batting Skill increased

Graham Smith - Batting Increased

isn't he a spinner is real life but the games say RM

Yeah i noticed that. Graham Smiths batting seems fine to me though.. I have him in my SA team and in the year 2013 he averages about 45 for me

Somerset · 22-02-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaze

Yeah i noticed that. Graham Smiths batting seems fine to me though.. I have him in my SA team and in the year 2013 he averages about 45 for me

He's managed some decent innings against my New Zealand side, I have to back up Blaze here and say that Smith's batting skill is adequate.

Somerset · 22-02-2005, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squiz

Edit: Don't worry

I've believe you're able to delete your posts on this forum Squiz...

bryce · 22-02-2005, 11:37 PM

noticed three i disagree with but otherwise they are all very good suggestions..

*Giles' original batting rating is realistic
*Symonds should stay a batsman and not become an allrounder(because that's what he is IRL)
*Kyle Mills should stay an allrounder(even though his batting ability does need to be decreased)

also try and add suggestions in regards to aggressive/defensive levels, i.e:Gilchrist should be changed to very aggressive
i will try to list some if i find time

masterblaster · 22-02-2005, 11:44 PM

Irfan Pathan Added
Dinesh Karthik Added
Mahendra Dhoni's batting stats increased and turned into Very Aggressive

Agreed with Michael Clarke and his batting
Cameron White's batting and bowling should be increased
Agreed with Stephen Harmison and Andrew Strauss

Ramnaresh Sarwan's aggression meter increased, his batting ability increased and make him a middle order player.

Chris Gayle changed into an opener
Wavell Hinds Changed into an opener

Agreed with Shoaib Malik
Add Umar Gul, Yasir Hameed, Shabbir Ahmed, Rana Naved Ul Hasan

Somerset · 22-02-2005, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryce

*Symonds should stay a batsman and not become an allrounder(because that's what he is IRL)

Symonds is bowling alright at the moment and is capable of bowling fairly decent spells, so I would certainly change him to an all-rounder. If Kyle Mills is to remain an all-rounder for his batting, then Symonds should definately be one for his bowling anyway.

bryce · 23-02-2005, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Somerset

Symonds is bowling alright at the moment and is capable of bowling fairly decent spells, so I would certainly change him to an all-rounder

well if your trying to make an update as current as you possibly can then i suggest he stays a batsman

Symonds bowling in his last 54 ODI's(since 2002)
44 wickets@44.91, RPO:4.95

In his last 19 ODI's
12 wickets@53.33, RPO:5.16

sure he used to be an allrounder but ever since 2002/03 his bowling has declined about as much as his batting has improved

SIX AND OUT · 23-02-2005, 12:15 AM

Symonds is definately an all-rounder. Every match, whether 4 day or 1 day he will have a bowl. He got 3 wickets last night against you Black caps so I guess that justifies the answer.
BTW - I have downloaded the update, and am playing with AUS. I had the best all-round individual performance i can think of, with Darren Lehmann, broke into the side for his first test of the summer, and produced a very productive 3/1 when bowling, off 4.1 overs. He then made an outstanding career best 205, and then got the last wicket of the match, taking his second inns bowling to 2/34. Pretty good effort. Is he really high on the attributes? should he be decreased? or is it a one off essential game, as he is a consistant batsmen, despite being dropped from the ODI side.

I played one match with Mills, and he made 74, but his bowling was ****e. I guess he is a bowler, but an All-Rounder is not out of the question.

Some more:

Brett Lee - Batting and Bowling decreased???
Adam Gilchrist - V Aggresive
Jason Gillespie - V Defenisve
Andrew Hall - Batting Increased / Defensive
Michael Clarke - Aggresive, Added to Hampshire
Brad Hodge - Bowling decreased, Added to Leicestershire

PS. Any chance of current players edited for non VIC and NSW players, ie. Put into other teams, ie. Only VIC, NSW and county AUS playrs get F/C Current stats, while SA, WA, TAS, QLD all get no extra F/C statistics during the summer. If anybody has anyideas how to fix this, it should be tried in the update. Cheers.

bryce · 23-02-2005, 12:16 AM

mills has a pretty respectable domestic batting record on supposedly the worst wickets in all first-class cricket and hasn't had many chances batting above 10 in internationals because of NZ's batting depth

Somerset · 23-02-2005, 12:17 AM

Well those statistics make me think differently on the matter.

Still, Kyle Mills' batting statistics in the same time period wouldn't be pretty though.

22-02-2005, 08:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Greg Blewett School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 91	2005 Database Idea Thread Ok this thread is being made so you can voice your opinion over what should be changed in the 2005 database. Not things like the players history or whatver but what changes would you like to see implemented from the original database? Such as someone being changed to an all-rounder/bowler/bat or somebody's abilities within the game changed to be better or worse or any errors with the original data so that I can fix them for the 2005 update. Any and all ideas are welcome.

22-02-2005, 10:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
SIX AND OUT U19 12th Man Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Cricket Posts: 223	Michael Clarke - Batting Skill increased Simon Katich - Bowling increased Brian Lara - Batting Skill increased Cameron White - Batting and Bowling increased Andrew Strauss - Batting Increased Ashley Giles - Batting decreased Stephen Harmison - Bowling Increased Graham Smith - Batting Increased Andrew Flintoff - Batting and Bowling Increased Darren Lehmann - All Rounder Travis Birt, Brendan Joseland updated stats have to be re-updated __________________ Good Old Collingwood Forever

22-02-2005, 10:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Blaze Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NZ Posts: 5,124	Daniel Vettori- Batting Skill Increased Shane Bond- Bowling Skill Increased Mark Richardson- Changed to an opener Kyle Mills- Batting Skill Decreased Steven Fleming- Batting Skill Increased Jeff Wilson, Brendon McCullum added to game Last edited by Blaze; 22-02-2005 at 10:14 PM.

22-02-2005, 10:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Retox State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,317	[QUOTE=SIX AND OUT]Michael Clarke - Batting Skill increased Graham Smith - Batting Increased isn't he a spinner is real life but the games say RM __________________ No'ones gonna take me alive The time has come to make things right You and I must fight for our rights You and I must fight to survive New Zealand Cricket Supporter

22-02-2005, 11:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
bryce International Regular Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamilton,NZ Posts: 3,370	noticed three i disagree with but otherwise they are all very good suggestions.. Giles' original batting rating is realistic Symonds should stay a batsman and not become an allrounder(because that's what he is IRL) Kyle Mills should stay an allrounder(even though his batting ability does need to be decreased) also try and add suggestions in regards to aggressive/defensive levels, i.e:Gilchrist should be changed to very aggressive i will try to list some if i find time __________________ ODI XI to match the best* 1.Ryder 2.McCullum+ 3.Guptill 4.Taylor 5.Broom 6.Oram 7.Elliott 8.Vettori* 9.Mills 10.Southee 11.Bond ringaz_ride@hotmail.com To answer your question, yes Thanks? METEORIC RISE ?

22-02-2005, 10:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Somerset Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 9,863	Andrew Symonds to an all-rounder. Shoaib Malik to an all-rounder and batting stats increased. Michael Papps added (can't remember him being on the game). Kyle Mills to a bowler. James Hildreth added to England and Somerset. Increase in bowling stats for Chris Cairns. Decreasing in batting stats for Kyle Mills. Styris to RM rather than RFM. Oram to RMF rather than RM. Decreasing in batting skills for Simon Katich. That's my five cents worth at this stage anyway.

22-02-2005, 11:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
masterblaster International Captain Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,065	Irfan Pathan Added Dinesh Karthik Added Mahendra Dhoni's batting stats increased and turned into Very Aggressive Agreed with Michael Clarke and his batting Cameron White's batting and bowling should be increased Agreed with Stephen Harmison and Andrew Strauss Ramnaresh Sarwan's aggression meter increased, his batting ability increased and make him a middle order player. Chris Gayle changed into an opener Wavell Hinds Changed into an opener Agreed with Shoaib Malik Add Umar Gul, Yasir Hameed, Shabbir Ahmed, Rana Naved Ul Hasan __________________ Self Elected Vice-President of AAAS (Ajit Agarkar Appreciation Society) "Uniting Ajit Agarkar Fans World Wide" Always Live Life With: Intensity, Integrity and Intelligence

23-02-2005, 12:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
SIX AND OUT U19 12th Man Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Cricket Posts: 223	Symonds is definately an all-rounder. Every match, whether 4 day or 1 day he will have a bowl. He got 3 wickets last night against you Black caps so I guess that justifies the answer. BTW - I have downloaded the update, and am playing with AUS. I had the best all-round individual performance i can think of, with Darren Lehmann, broke into the side for his first test of the summer, and produced a very productive 3/1 when bowling, off 4.1 overs. He then made an outstanding career best 205, and then got the last wicket of the match, taking his second inns bowling to 2/34. Pretty good effort. Is he really high on the attributes? should he be decreased? or is it a one off essential game, as he is a consistant batsmen, despite being dropped from the ODI side. I played one match with Mills, and he made 74, but his bowling was ****e. I guess he is a bowler, but an All-Rounder is not out of the question. Some more: Brett Lee - Batting and Bowling decreased??? Adam Gilchrist - V Aggresive Jason Gillespie - V Defenisve Andrew Hall - Batting Increased / Defensive Michael Clarke - Aggresive, Added to Hampshire Brad Hodge - Bowling decreased, Added to Leicestershire PS. Any chance of current players edited for non VIC and NSW players, ie. Put into other teams, ie. Only VIC, NSW and county AUS playrs get F/C Current stats, while SA, WA, TAS, QLD all get no extra F/C statistics during the summer. If anybody has anyideas how to fix this, it should be tried in the update. Cheers.

23-02-2005, 12:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
bryce International Regular Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamilton,NZ Posts: 3,370	mills has a pretty respectable domestic batting record on supposedly the worst wickets in all first-class cricket and hasn't had many chances batting above 10 in internationals because of NZ's batting depth

23-02-2005, 12:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
Somerset Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 9,863	Well those statistics make me think differently on the matter. Still, Kyle Mills' batting statistics in the same time period wouldn't be pretty though.

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