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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim
    ahh yes, the retirements, the injuries....NZ decided to not pick 8 former key players like Mehrtens, Randell, Oliver etc before the WC & we're still managing to do ok without them.
    Here lies the differance - in NZ there were clearly superior alternatives to those players.

    In England, there are not - surely you would have to accept that it's a differant kettle of fish? Don't get me wrong, I dislike the English rugby side as much as you all do, but lets be fair here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre
    Here lies the differance - in NZ there were clearly superior alternatives to those players.

    In England, there are not - surely you would have to accept that it's a differant kettle of fish? Don't get me wrong, I dislike the English rugby side as much as you all do, but lets be fair here!
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    Which makes it all more concerning for England considering they have more than 3 or 4 times the amount of players than NZ do..

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    You keep going on about this whole size thing, but it's immaterial IMO.

    Especially when you look at the relative size of support for the sport.
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    i have to agree with marc on this one. if what tim says is true, china and india should run riot at the Olympics, with their giant populations. but this wont happen.
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    No im talking about the pop^ of a country playing the sport..not the overall pop^ of a country.
    Sure China has a huge pop^, but how many actually participate in athletics & do China actually have enough resources to cover all those people?

    The English rugby union pump a huge amount of money into their game which should reach a wider number of players.

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    Actually in China, the sport, according to reports, is raising in popularity and is the official sport of the national army.
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    Except that Rugby Union is a Southern and Upper Class sport.
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    Can anyone imagine a Chinese forward pack? hate to say it, but I don't think rugby is a sport China will ever really support.

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    Can anyone imagine a Chinese forward pack? hate to say it, but I don't think rugby is a sport China will ever really support
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    hhahahaha. its hard to imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    Except that Rugby Union is a Southern and Upper Class sport.
    Yet you do not read the bit where I said it was the sport that is played in the Chinese Army.

    Anyway what you have said (the Sourthern bit) only really applies to England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    Yet you do not read the bit where I said it was the sport that is played in the Chinese Army.

    Anyway what you have said (the Sourthern bit) only really applies to England.
    Because I was responding to Tim's point about the English player base.

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    Anyone want to predict Saturday's score?

    I think the English forwards are going to stand up this week meaning that the difference could be in the backs. NZ clearly have the edge in that area. Im looking forward to seeing Nick Evans have a run at fullback, although he's being touted as the next 5/8 with the AB's.

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    I predict NZ by 12 and under.

    Perhaps somewhere around 21-17 or so.

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    NZ by >10

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