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England players who have failed to push on
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andruid
Cricketer Of The Year
When he was a young th to coming up the Man United youth ranks.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Depends how you feel about their club performances. Admittedly injuries haven't helped with Ox though.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Yeah but nonetheless - I think 21 or so is too young to be written off as having not pushed on
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Definitely Rooney. To say he didn't have the potential to be a great just because he's a different player to Messi or Ronaldo is rubbish.
He could actually run at people and shoot effectively with either foot from outside the box in the early 2000s. He was strong, not great pace but enough to go past defenders. France's defence couldn't handle him in 2004. When has he ever done that since? His slow motion run in the FA Cup a couple of months ago is about it. He became more of a finisher and lost the ability to terrorise defences.
Ronaldo and Bale both developed to be great in the air, they developed their ball striking - long range and free kicks. No reason Rooney couldn't have done those things. Instead his first touch has remained atrocious, he's got slower and slower, his long range shooting next to nonexistent now.
He could actually run at people and shoot effectively with either foot from outside the box in the early 2000s. He was strong, not great pace but enough to go past defenders. France's defence couldn't handle him in 2004. When has he ever done that since? His slow motion run in the FA Cup a couple of months ago is about it. He became more of a finisher and lost the ability to terrorise defences.
Ronaldo and Bale both developed to be great in the air, they developed their ball striking - long range and free kicks. No reason Rooney couldn't have done those things. Instead his first touch has remained atrocious, he's got slower and slower, his long range shooting next to nonexistent now.
andruid
Cricketer Of The Year
I'm goig to split hairs and say Ronaldo's heading ability was already mostly developed even when he was coming out of his teens (See the Carling Cup Final header against Cardiff City). His being used as a winger in The United system just minimized his opportunities to deploy it on a regular basis
S.Kennedy
International Vice-Captain
I distinctly remember Rooney being talked of in the same bracket Messi and Ronald in the mid 00s which seems laughable now. He actually probably was ahead of Ronaldo at one stage; Rooney seemed to peak early (and in a Manchester shirt) then just go backwards to a basically incredibly average player.
King Pietersen
International Captain
2004 Rooney was absolutely unreal. One of the most exciting young talents I've ever seen, he had everything. Felt like something was going to happen everytime he picked the ball up.
Ravel Morrison has to be included here. Everyone that's managed him says he's one of the most naturally gifted talents they've seen, yet constant off the field issues and lack of professionalism have plagued him wherever he's been. Such a shame.
Burgey
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Timeless post.
Uppercut
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TBH I'd have said the literal opposite. I think 15/16 was probably his worst season, in and out of one of the league's worst defences, whereas this season's he's looked quite good (as opposed to just "clearly has potential") for the first time.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Pretty much every English player since Shearer.
Edit: ah damn, beaten to it by Burge, sort of.
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Why on earth would you have thought that?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
His goal in the 2006 (?) League Cup Final was pure Henry.
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