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*Official* English Football Season 2014-15
- Thread starter GIMH
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Jarquis
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I don't get why a player has to be 'one or the other' either. Cabinet seems to be under the impression he'd compete for the 'Ramsey and Wilshere slot' and have no impact on the 'Arteta and Flamini' one. It gives us an extra option of genuine quality for those midfield slots and different players will play differently together there. Players don't have default settings that mean they play a certain way depending solely on which position you give them out of 'RCM' and 'LCM' or whatever. I don't see a reason why Ramsey and Khedira couldn't be ****ing amazing, even if it does involve Ramsey playing a little differently to how he would alongside MA/MF.
It doesn't really seem to apply anywhere else. We just signed Sanchez and everyone is lauding over the versatility it gives us and the potential combinations of the attacking front four but when it comes to a CM partnership one of the two absolutely has to be the attacking minded player and the other the defensive. If you've got two relative B2B players then all it takes is some communication and game intelligence and it's fine - when one goes the other stays. It's literally twice as hard to play against too as you're not just tracking Ramsey from deep, you're also tracking Khedira too. I dunno, obviously you risk taking away some of what made Ramsey quite so amazing across the last 18 months but there's no reason the team can't benefit as a whole. It'd take some extra work on Ramsey's part too - defensive ability is clearly there (tackles and interceptions were through the roof last year as well as goals and assists iirc) - but that's the same with creating any new CM partnership.
It doesn't really seem to apply anywhere else. We just signed Sanchez and everyone is lauding over the versatility it gives us and the potential combinations of the attacking front four but when it comes to a CM partnership one of the two absolutely has to be the attacking minded player and the other the defensive. If you've got two relative B2B players then all it takes is some communication and game intelligence and it's fine - when one goes the other stays. It's literally twice as hard to play against too as you're not just tracking Ramsey from deep, you're also tracking Khedira too. I dunno, obviously you risk taking away some of what made Ramsey quite so amazing across the last 18 months but there's no reason the team can't benefit as a whole. It'd take some extra work on Ramsey's part too - defensive ability is clearly there (tackles and interceptions were through the roof last year as well as goals and assists iirc) - but that's the same with creating any new CM partnership.
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GIMH
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Haha, this is about 100% right tbh. The only way Wilshere will flop is if he's no good or gets ruined by injuries. He's going to play, there's no question of that, he and Ramsey are Wenger's darlings. He just has to make the most of it when he gets the chance.No but him being **** might
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King Pietersen
International Captain
Wilshere and Hart getting very, erm, close.....
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Sami Khedira's £23m move to Arsenal 'imminent' despite interest from Chelsea | Mail Online
Gosh. Quite a summer this is turning out to be.
Gosh. Quite a summer this is turning out to be.
King Pietersen
International Captain
United have signed a £750m 10-year deal with Adidas for their kit. That's a ridiculous deal. Highest previous deal was Real Madrid's £31m a year deal, so this blows that out of the water. Chevrolet paying £53m a year to have their logo on Uniteds shirt too. United making stupid money from their kit, £128m a year from Kit sponsors is just crazy.
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That is a really good price as well.
Well World Cup has been gone a day so I think it is time to get excited about the new season, the Bees are going to be playing Championship football in less just a few weeks time. Going to have to get used to watching them lose an awful lot more but it is going to be amazing.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
I really think the 11/2 on United to win the title is beginning to look tasty. Vidal really does seem to be signing (he is 1/6 to sign for us with most bookies) and if he does we have a really good front six, goalkeeper and a competent manager again. Still worries about the defence but firstly we have won several titles without a defence including the last one and secondly we are giving off the feeling that we are not done in the transfer market yet. Think Chelsea are rightly favourites but I think we win the title more than the 1 in 6.5 times needed for the bet to turn a profit.
Cabinet96
Global Moderator
Early thoughts on the seasons top seven?
1. Chelsea
2. Man City
3. Arsenal
4. Man United
5. Liverpool
6. Tottenham
7. Everton
I think it might be a bit of a dogfight between those placed 3rd to 5th to get in the Champions League, but I can't see either of Spurs or Everton surpassing what will probably be a clear top five this season. Liverpool losing Saurez and having to play a minimum (and likely more) extra six games is why I think they'll drop. I kind of fancy Chelsea if they get Luis. Weren't great last year but still managed to beat all the good teams and with a bit more quality - and a core of Courtois, Luis, Fabregas and Costa is a serious improvement - they should be more consistent against the rest, and be able to breakdown sides who sit against them. Their transfer dealings under Mourinho so far have been stella (and fortunate) and they have no weak link now - not even an area of moderate ability by Champions League standards tbh.
1. Chelsea
2. Man City
3. Arsenal
4. Man United
5. Liverpool
6. Tottenham
7. Everton
I think it might be a bit of a dogfight between those placed 3rd to 5th to get in the Champions League, but I can't see either of Spurs or Everton surpassing what will probably be a clear top five this season. Liverpool losing Saurez and having to play a minimum (and likely more) extra six games is why I think they'll drop. I kind of fancy Chelsea if they get Luis. Weren't great last year but still managed to beat all the good teams and with a bit more quality - and a core of Courtois, Luis, Fabregas and Costa is a serious improvement - they should be more consistent against the rest, and be able to breakdown sides who sit against them. Their transfer dealings under Mourinho so far have been stella (and fortunate) and they have no weak link now - not even an area of moderate ability by Champions League standards tbh.
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I'm not fully convinced Vidal would be an amazing signing. Serie A imports have a very, very low success rate.
I think the CBs are still too bad for United to have a shot at the title. Sure we did it in 2013 but Vidic and Ferdinand have since left and the other teams have improved. I definitely wouldn't touch 11/2. But I am fairly confident we'll finish above Liverpool, which I'll take.
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Eds
International Debutant
How can you be confident when none of us really know what Liverpool's squad is going to look like? Reports suggesting all of the Suarez money will be spent on new players. Defense likely to completely change and we're also supposedly looking for a game-changing attacker, too.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Vidal has been a success in more than just Serie A, though, so he isn't solely a Serie A import. As an aside I'm not sure their success rate is lower than many other leagues. There has been far fewer Italian players in the Premiership than there have been from most other major nations in the past few years in any case.
Regarding the defence, if we don't sign anyone else I would agree with you, but I am hopeful we will do. The 2013 versions of Vidic and Ferdinand are not big misses. I obviously think we are still behind City and Chelsea and would be even with an additional centre-half and assuming Vidal signs, but at 11/2 it really doesn't have to happen very often.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
That'd be so great.