*Official* English Football Season 2012-13 - Page 68

Scaly piscine · 23-10-2012, 12:47 PM

You've gotta laugh...

Tom Halsey · 23-10-2012, 12:51 PM

We might as well just start every match 1-0 down after 10 and do away with the ritual of the opening few minutes.

grecian · 23-10-2012, 01:06 PM

Interesting stuff so far.

Scaly piscine · 23-10-2012, 01:08 PM

Yea, Celtic leading in Barcelona too. Interesting indeed

Scaly piscine · 23-10-2012, 01:20 PM

Happens every other game of football - a great chance or goal eliminated by a bad offside decision.

Scaly piscine · 23-10-2012, 02:10 PM

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Happens every other game of football - a great chance or goal eliminated by a bad offside decision.

And again. Has to be one of the most important yet unenforcable rules in sport.

grecian · 23-10-2012, 02:18 PM

C'mon Barca, put money on both Barca and Manure when they were losing, over 3-1, had to be done.

Scaly piscine · 23-10-2012, 02:26 PM

Manure pissing about now, inviting Braga to attack - which isn't wise given that Manure's defence is poor.

Scaly piscine · 23-10-2012, 02:48 PM

BBC Sport - Racism row: lawyer reveals black footballers' association talks

Personally I think having a black society of anything is essentially racist. Where do they draw the line? I mean Rio isn't exactly black anyway. Perhaps Herbert is going to comment on the 'disgrace' of all those jocks managing in the Premier League - or is it because they're the best people for the job and there's no ****ing tin foil hat conspiracy against English managers? Go peddle your **** somewhere else.

The Sean · 23-10-2012, 03:27 PM

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Reckon United could save some time and effort by starting every match with 15 minutes gone and 1-0 down.

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Originally Posted by Tom Halsey

We might as well just start every match 1-0 down after 10 and do away with the ritual of the opening few minutes.

You could have just quoted me from last weekend.

GIMH · 23-10-2012, 04:23 PM

**** we were great tonight. Probably the best I've seen this season, at home.

And we ****ing lost. Flabbergasted.

BoyBrumby · 24-10-2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

BBC Sport - Racism row: lawyer reveals black footballers' association talks

Personally I think having a black society of anything is essentially racist. Where do they draw the line? I mean Rio isn't exactly black anyway. Perhaps Herbert is going to comment on the 'disgrace' of all those jocks managing in the Premier League - or is it because they're the best people for the job and there's no ****ing tin foil hat conspiracy against English managers? Go peddle your **** somewhere else.

His brother was plenty black enough for Terry, tbf. It's probably a sad reflection of where we are in 2012, but mixed race/dual heritage people are effectively treated as being black.

&, in my mind, there's no doubt that ethnic minority players do face problems that are peculiar to them. I'm sure the PFA does a lot of good work, but it respresents all professional footballers, including those who some might argue are part of the problem, like Captain Racist and Luis "****ing" Suarez.

Uppercut · 24-10-2012, 05:20 AM

True but I do find the theory about black managers being subject to racism pretty unconvincing. Amongst other things, when discrimination is present, clubs that don't discriminate tend to do disproportionately well. If premiership clubs aren't appointing excellent managers because they're black, then you'd expect the football league clubs that pick up those managers to excel. And that isn't really happening at all.

It could be that racist attitudes prevent black people from commanding the necessary respect to be a successful manager. But if that's the case you can't really expect chairmen to appoint them anyway as a matter of principle.

Scaly piscine · 24-10-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

His brother was plenty black enough for Terry, tbf. It's probably a sad reflection of where we are in 2012, but mixed race/dual heritage people are effectively treated as being black.

&, in my mind, there's no doubt that ethnic minority players do face problems that are peculiar to them. I'm sure the PFA does a lot of good work, but it respresents all professional footballers, including those who some might argue are part of the problem, like Captain Racist and Luis "****ing" Suarez.

You can differentiate on nationality, as in having an Argentine player association, a French player association or whatever. That's reasonable. A black one is not. It's ridiculous for the sorts of reasons I already mentioned.

There are groups that are supposed to cover the discrimination. If they're not doing a good enough job then you do something about those groups, you don't set up a black players' association in retaliation. Two wrongs don't make a right.

BoyBrumby · 24-10-2012, 11:15 AM

Meh. Group, association; both amount to the same thing.

I don't see any problem with it myself. Lots of spheres have such narrow interest groups to cater for their members' specific issues. Some Trades Unions have groups to represent their ethnic minority or LGBT members' interests, for instance.

I think one thing the Terry case in particular has shown is that we haven't got our own house in order WRT race just yet. **** as he obviously is; he's an English **** so we can't blame his racial abuse on different cultural mores.

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Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,535	Yea, Celtic leading in Barcelona too. Interesting indeed

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Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,535	Happens every other game of football - a great chance or goal eliminated by a bad offside decision.

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grecian International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hanging on ! Posts: 11,298	C'mon Barca, put money on both Barca and Manure when they were losing, over 3-1, had to be done.

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Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,535	Manure pissing about now, inviting Braga to attack - which isn't wise given that Manure's defence is poor.

23-10-2012, 02:48 PM	#1014 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,535	BBC Sport - Racism row: lawyer reveals black footballers' association talks Personally I think having a black society of anything is essentially racist. Where do they draw the line? I mean Rio isn't exactly black anyway. Perhaps Herbert is going to comment on the 'disgrace' of all those jocks managing in the Premier League - or is it because they're the best people for the job and there's no **ing tin foil hat conspiracy against English managers? Go peddle your ** somewhere else.

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BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,646	Meh. Group, association; both amount to the same thing. I don't see any problem with it myself. Lots of spheres have such narrow interest groups to cater for their members' specific issues. Some Trades Unions have groups to represent their ethnic minority or LGBT members' interests, for instance. I think one thing the Terry case in particular has shown is that we haven't got our own house in order WRT race just yet. ** as he obviously is; he's an English ** so we can't blame his racial abuse on different cultural mores.

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