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    Is there anyone who isn't a Liverpool fan who thinks 10 games is excessive?

    Seems just about spot-on to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    Is there anyone who isn't a Liverpool fan who thinks 10 games is excessive?

    Seems just about spot-on to me.
    I don't think it's excessive per se, in fact it's probably abou right. What does irritate me, and I believe I may have said this when Suarez got his racism ban, is that potentially career ending tackles still seem to hover between the 3 and 5 match area. I'd like to see them given the same kind of scrutiny. But the Suarez thing is separate to that.
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    It's that old whore "intent", isn't it?

    Some clodhopping thug like Shawcross breaks a leg by going over the top studs first and "he's not that kind of lad, Brian." When Suarez bites someone it's pretty hard to claim his mouth slipped.

    Intent is so hard to prove. Same kinda deal with beamers in cricket, actually. I personally believe most are bowled deliberately; unless the bowler's attempting a slower ball or happens to be called Mitchell Johnson or Steve Harmison it stretches credulity they can miss their length by thirty yards. Yet it's always "Soz, hand slipped"
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Oh FFS, the 2 incidents are NOT THE ****ING SAME THING.

    There's so many differences between them that you can't compare them. With Scaly here, would be absolutely hilarious if they appealed and it were considered frivolous.
    The differences compound to make Suarez's case even stronger. As was explained; that they didn't see Defoe's bite as not worthy of more than the 3 game suspension means Suarez's tripled (!) sentence makes even less sense.

    You've argued that the previous history is reason enough to triple the ban length. What is ironic is that Suarez's 7 games previous (1 which was suspended) was 7 because he had a suspended sentence previously which added onto the bite charge - which itself was just a 4 match ban.

    The reality is no one here can calculate exactly, and on which rules, the FA came to 10 and yet claim that 10 is 'just right'. .
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    The differences compound to make Suarez's case even stronger. As was explained; that they didn't see Defoe's bite as not worthy of more than the 3 game suspension means Suarez's tripled (!) sentence makes even less sense.

    You've argued that the previous history is reason enough to triple the ban length. What is ironic is that Suarez's 7 games previous (1 which was suspended) was 7 because he had a suspended sentence previously which added onto the bite charge - which itself was just a 4 match ban.

    The reality is no one here can calculate exactly, and on which rules, the FA came to 10 and yet claim that 10 is 'just right'. .
    Err for the millionth time Suarez's bite in itself is far worse than Defoe's. Then you have all the mitigating factors like Suarez being a repeat offending ****. And finally whether Defoe's punishment was right or wrong really doesn't matter when the decision is how long the poor persecuted Uruguayan gets banned for, not can we look at someone who may have gotten off lightly and use that as a barometer.

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    Not sure how dear old Brendon came to the conclusion that the 10 game ban was based on the man and not the offence. If you banned Suarez based his individual conduct on the football field he'd be banned for life.

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    Decided not to appeal - very wise.

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    They obvs knew it was just a conspiracy against them so there would be no point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    Decided not to appeal - very wise.
    Indeed, an appeal would surely have only increased the length. I'm also glad that this can finally be put to bed.

    Just hope we don't lose him now.
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    Interesting that the FA panel have said that the Suarez incident was considered in isolation and that his previous record was not considered. I assumed that the 10 games must have been at least partially because of his previous, but I imagine this will raise some questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    Interesting that the FA panel have said that the Suarez incident was considered in isolation and that his previous record was not considered. I assumed that the 10 games must have been at least partially because of his previous, but I imagine this will raise some questions.
    Not only did they not take into account his past actions - which makes a mockery of the 10 match ban considering that is what every Tom, Dick and Luis thought was being used to get to that number - they didn't even compare it with previous bite cases but this:

    The Commisson did not take into account that no further action was taken against Jermain Defoe in 2006, and instead used the case of Brighton's Ashley Barnes, banned for a total of seven games for tripping up a referee, to judge the length of Suarez's ban.
    Did you also read Ferguson's interview? Basically came out calling the FA a joke and that Liverpool did the right thing not applying their own bans for him. I agree.

    I reckon Luis basically has accepted the ban because its a lose-lose situation for him. Get it shortened and people will think he has gotten away with something and there is more ill-will towards him. Get it lengthened instead and he is on the sidelines even more. What a cock-up this whole thing was. The only good thing, hopefully, will be that Suarez will stop with this nonsense that aids nothing to his game.
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    Yeah not biting people would definetly be a good idea.

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