Wenger was also on about the possibility of finishing 2nd just over a week ago. Now he's saying finishing in the top 4 is difficult.
Giggs was 23 when he scored that goal against Arsenal in the FA Cup, by which point he'd been one of the top players at the top club in the country for 7 years.
Honestly, you'd be better off not posting in this thread, you embarass yourself everytime your fingers hit your keyboard.
Great player overall, a long and decorated career; but his talent didn't peak that high. Gareth Bale on the other hand has been there already - was nominated/won for PFA/FWA POTY before and is a contender again this year.
You'd be better off not posting at all. You're an embarrassment regardless of when/where/if you type.Honestly, you'd be better off not posting in this thread, you embarass yourself everytime your fingers hit your keyboard.
Last edited by Ikki; 04-03-2013 at 11:42 AM.
I actually think Arsenal are a very good team and will get better. Like Liverpool they lack concentration and a couple of players in certain positions that will greatly impact the team. IMO you're badly missing a world-class CB and a forward that will give you 17-20 league goals.
When it clicks for Arsenal they are a brilliant team. Liverpool have lost games this season but I don't remember being so embarrassed against a side like the first leg of the season against Arsenal.
Giggs not one of the top 3 players in the league.
That United team with 3 recent PFA POTYs (Cantona 1993/1994; Pallister 1991/1992; and Hughes 1990/1991)? Where Keane had broke into the United side after coming for the British transfer record? Ince FFS, when he was actually good? Schmeichel?
It is debatable that he was even top 3 in his own team. Giggs wasn't even picked for the PFA team of the year. A team which had 4 United players (Pallister, Irwin, Ince and Cantona).
Last edited by Ikki; 04-03-2013 at 12:13 PM.
I always like to see who makes PFA Team of the Year and find it interesting but I'd not necessarily consider it an irrefutable guide. Cantona only made it that once (and not for his 95/96 season), Bergkamp also just once - in his 11 years in English football - and Zola never made it at all. Andy Cole scored 34 League goals in that 93/94 season and didn't make the Team of the Year.
That being said, Giggsy has made the Team of the Year plenty of times even if not that particular season so he's been at least the best in his position often enough.
For me Giggs was better than Bale. We need to remember that Bale is a shining light in a team that has won bugger all not a brilliant part of the team that has dominated English football for the last 20 years.
One thing to say, should Bale win player of the year when Michu has had just as big an impact on his team and actually helped his team to win silverware and that doesn't even include Sewer Rat and RVP?
Last edited by GIMH; 04-03-2013 at 01:05 PM.
Originally Posted by Axl Rose
RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.
Who cares anyway? Could not give a **** about individual awards in Football, is a team sport.
It's a **** sport is what it is, when are the Ashes?
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