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    Albert Ferrer clearly the best.

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    Nah Enrique de Lucas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Nah Enrique de Lucas.
    Haha, apparently he went on to be quite effective for Alaves and Celta Vigo after his unassuming spell in the Premiership.

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    You're both wrong, it was Xisco.
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    Yeah I saw him on tv a few weeks ago, came off the bench. Had almost entirely forgotten his existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    You're both wrong, it was Xisco.
    Oh lord yes.

    Although Newcastle also bought Albert Luque...

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    I think your point on the whole is a good one actually, as there are plenty of Spanish players, particularly those who have moved over more recently, who are pretty underrated and do a good, or at least serviceable job for their teams. Jordi Gomez, Ivan Ramis and Javier Garrido immediately spring to mind.

    Worth bearing in mind that there have also been plenty of Spanish players who've bombed pretty badly or been considerably underwhelming though. Luque, Josemi, Antonio Nunez, Xisco and Morientes etc...


    Edit: Ha, beaten to it, by both of you.
    Last edited by sledger; 20-02-2013 at 07:02 AM.

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    Also Jose Reyes is probably deserving of an honourable mention here, though I wouldn't really consider him a flop, just a bit of an oik with an attitude problem.

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    Yeah but noticeably they are mostly a few years ago. Of those that have been bought in the last couple of years then only really Granero stands out as a big flop, and well that is QPR.

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    Just remembered Marcelino as well, what a talent he was. Funny how all the crap Spaniards tend to be bought more or less exclusively by Newcastle and Liverpool...

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    Yeah at least Liverpool managed a few decent ones.

    No surprise Newcastle moved on to the French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    Just remembered Marcelino as well, what a talent he was. Funny how all the crap Spaniards tend to be bought more or less exclusively by Newcastle and Liverpool...
    Apart from this one, of course:


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    Haha hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Can be no denying that La Liga has huge huge problems because of the finances of most of the clubs playing in it, I mean really if it was half decently run it would be the best league by an absolute mile. Would still say it is higher in quality, the average Spanish player from a lower half side is just much better than his English equivalent. Think the best indicator is the number of players that have come to England from outside Barcelona and R. Madrid and have been really outstanding in the Premiership and not just the obvious ones like Silva, Mata and Cazorla.
    Yeah, i agree the quality of average spanish player could be slightly higher (Very hard to tell, btw) but the players you are referencing are all players who have been doing well in La Liga and are also players losing whom makes the league weaker as a whole.

    Has there been anyone like a Forlan or a Kanoute who was bombing there but was a huge success in the PL immediately?

    You could look at the French market and there have been many successes from there too in the PL. It's a tough one to judge really.
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    Agree that it is making the league weaker, which is why I said if it was run in anyway approaching competently it would be the best league by a mile. For now I think the sheer amont of talent that Spain produces (and South Americans) means that they are getting away with it.

    Unfair on Forlan as well, have no doubt that if he had gone somewhere else in Europe first or even come to United a bit younger and slowly been introduced that he would have been a great success.



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