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Scaly piscine · 11-09-2012, 01:43 PM

Cleverley not really cut out for this really advanced role for me. Had a great position there, in behind and tons of space and he didn't even look up. Just belted it over everyone. One of the commentators from the other night said he hadn't scored yet for Manure. Did well to hit the keeper with the other chance obviously.

Scaly piscine · 11-09-2012, 01:44 PM

And now that one.

Sees that one coming all day. Awful.

GIMH · 11-09-2012, 01:45 PM

**** off cleverley

flibbertyjibber · 11-09-2012, 01:45 PM

Is Tom Cleverly the most over rated player ever to pull on an England jersey? Two sitters he has missed now.

BoyBrumby · 11-09-2012, 01:45 PM

Get him off. Having a ****ing mare.

Scaly piscine · 11-09-2012, 01:49 PM

Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live:
"Unstoppable, absolutely unstoppable. Konoplianka just cut inside and curled it away from Joe Hart. That all came when England give the ball away again, Joleon Lescott the culprit this time, but Ukraine moved the ball quickly and the finish was decisive.

"It is no more than Ukraine deserve and yet arguably England have had the best chance of the lot. Every time I see Lescott play, he always makes a mistake. But that was a brilliant finish and Joe Hart was nowhere near it.

Does this wanker get paid to comment on games he's not watching?

England have probably edged the play whilst Ukraine have had a number of sighters without them being great opportunities. England have actually kept the ball far better tonight than I've seen them do for a long time.

flibbertyjibber · 11-09-2012, 01:50 PM

Just shows why we have no chance of doing anything in the future as we have muppets like Milner and Cleverly in the side. Worrying that we still play the proven failed combination of Gerrard and Lampard, lets hope Wilshere is the same player when he eventually gets fit.

We will probably draw 1-1 and still go on to qualify easily enough but I know we stand bugger all chance of doing anything when the proper stuff arrives.

Uppercut · 11-09-2012, 01:51 PM

You don't half talk some **** flibberty. If you weren't around I'd be starting to miss roseboy.

wpdavid · 11-09-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Cleverley not really cut out for this really advanced role for me. Had a great position there, in behind and tons of space and he didn't even look up. Just belted it over everyone. One of the commentators from the other night said he hadn't scored yet for Manure. Did well to hit the keeper with the other chance obviously.

That would be my take on it. It looks plain enough that he could do a very good job in a deeper role for England, but no way is he going to do the role that's being asked of him. Surely Gerrard or Lampard would be better there, wouldn't they?

That being said, I've just got back home and found us trailing, so what have I missed?

sledger · 11-09-2012, 01:53 PM

This England midfield is rubbish. No shape whatsoever.

ITV commentary doing my head in as usual as well: "Gerrard couldn't have closed him down quicker". Yes, probably true, but only because he left his man in the first place and had far too much ground to make up to close the shot down.

flibbertyjibber · 11-09-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Uppercut

You don't half talk some **** flibberty. If you weren't around I'd be starting to miss roseboy.

So what have I said that is wrong there, we are an ordinary side and I know that. The thing is once we qualify the press will whip the idiots into a frenzy and many will think we will have a chance of winning the darn thing. Just about qualifying is our limit with blokes like Milner and Cleverly in the side.

GIMH · 11-09-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wpdavid

That would be my take on it. It looks plain enough that he could do a very good job in a deeper role for England, but no way is he going to do the role that's being asked of him. Surely Gerrard or Lampard would be better there, wouldn't they?

That being said, I've just got back home and found us trailing, so what have I missed?

I'd say Gerrard is best used where he is now. Always felt we missed a trick having him sit deeper when he was at his peak, but I wouldn't put him there now. Lampard, maybe.

flibbertyjibber · 11-09-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GIMH

I'd say Gerrard is best used where he is now. Always felt we missed a trick having him sit deeper when he was at his peak, but I wouldn't put him there now. Lampard, maybe.

It was ludicrous not playing him further up when he was younger and had the legs to get about more.

wpdavid · 11-09-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GIMH

I'd say Gerrard is best used where he is now. Always felt we missed a trick having him sit deeper when he was at his peak, but I wouldn't put him there now. Lampard, maybe.

I just feel that we're short of goal scoring options with the current formation and that Cleverley's being played out of position. That being said, you're probably right about Gerrard.

Uppercut · 11-09-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GIMH

I'd say Gerrard is best used where he is now. Always felt we missed a trick having him sit deeper when he was at his peak, but I wouldn't put him there now. Lampard, maybe.

I think Gerrard's having a really good game tonight tbh. Lamps at the point of triangle where he plays for Chelsea with Cleverly deeper would make a lot more sense to me too.

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11-09-2012, 01:44 PM	#77 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,529	And now that one. Sees that one coming all day. Awful.

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flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,941	Is Tom Cleverly the most over rated player ever to pull on an England jersey? Two sitters he has missed now.

11-09-2012, 01:49 PM	#81 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,529	Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "Unstoppable, absolutely unstoppable. Konoplianka just cut inside and curled it away from Joe Hart. That all came when England give the ball away again, Joleon Lescott the culprit this time, but Ukraine moved the ball quickly and the finish was decisive. "It is no more than Ukraine deserve and yet arguably England have had the best chance of the lot. Every time I see Lescott play, he always makes a mistake. But that was a brilliant finish and Joe Hart was nowhere near it. Does this wanker get paid to comment on games he's not watching? England have probably edged the play whilst Ukraine have had a number of sighters without them being great opportunities. England have actually kept the ball far better tonight than I've seen them do for a long time.

11-09-2012, 01:50 PM	#82 (permalink)
flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,941	Just shows why we have no chance of doing anything in the future as we have muppets like Milner and Cleverly in the side. Worrying that we still play the proven failed combination of Gerrard and Lampard, lets hope Wilshere is the same player when he eventually gets fit. We will probably draw 1-1 and still go on to qualify easily enough but I know we stand bugger all chance of doing anything when the proper stuff arrives.

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