*Official* English Football Season 2010-11

[cpr]

Originally Posted by sledger

No point in recalling Scholes, would have literally no long term benefits whatsoever.

Would if he snaps Messi/Tevez' leg in the friendly in February.

[NUFAN]

Is Arteta even playing well enough to make the England squad at the moment? He hasn't looked like half the player he was before his injury last season.

[Neil Pickup]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

Is Arteta even playing well enough to make the England squad at the moment? He hasn't looked like half the player he was before his injury last season.

Call me a broken record, but Shaun Wright-Phillips.

[aussie]

Originally Posted by sledger

No point in recalling Scholes, would have literally no long term benefits whatsoever.

Of course its not long term, its not as if we would be expecting him to be involved in the 2014 WC or something. Just the EURO 2012 qualifiers & tournament.

[aussie]

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

Call me a broken record, but Shaun Wright-Phillips.

Haha. Well i think we can sleep soundly knowing that SWP wont play for ENG again, fairly confident Capello realised it was a mistake taking him to WC ATS.

[aussie]

BBC Sport - Football - Jack Wilshere called into England Under-21 squad

No issue with Wilshire being relegated to under 21 for now. But Richards certainly has to be in the senior squad based on his performace vs Liverpool the other day - looked his old self. Johnson can't play RB again.

[roseboy64]

If Arteta can play for England why then can't Nacho Novo play for Scotland? Oh that's right. It's because he can't. Geez.

Previously, players with British citizenship had to either have at least a grandparent born in a particular Home Nation, or have completed at least five years of schooling in that country in order to represent the national side.

There's more:
"There has been some confusion and much debate in recent days about whether or not Nacho Novo can play for Scotland.

"On one hand the FIFA regulations say that George Burley can pick eligible players who hold a British passport - and on the other we have the gentlemen's agreement with the other Home Associations that says that we will pick players based on their blood line.

"I have today sought to clarify the issue. We have had discussions with the other associations in the past couple of days and I've found out that everyone is adhering to our agreement and that, subsequently, we're all going down the line that we will use bloodline as the basis for eligibility.

[roseboy64]

Any change to this agreement needs to go through FIFA and the IFAB. The IFAB= representatives from each of the United Kingdom's pioneering football associations — England's Football Association (The FA), the Scottish Football Association (SFA), the Football Association of Wales (FAW) and Northern Ireland's Irish Football Association (IFA) — and Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA), the international governing body for football. Each UK association has one vote and FIFA has four. IFAB deliberations must be approved by at least six votes. Thus, FIFA's approval is necessary for any IFAB decision, but FIFA alone cannot change the Laws of the Game; they need to be agreed by at least two of the UK members.

[roseboy64]

As such FIFA has to give the go ahead for Arteta or Almunia or anyone with no British heritage or schooling to play for England or any Home Nation. To grant that it'd pretty much mean the disbandment of the national associations and to form a GB team as FIFA views the Home Nations as it does the Basques and the only reason the Home Nations continue as they are is through their history and the fact they don't pick foreign players.

No need to thank me for educating you. Do you still think I know nothing about football GF?

[roseboy64]

Originally Posted by cpr

as GF said, Arteta's been in England long enough to play for England.

If anyone can be accused of opening a can of worms re representing a nation, look at Darren Gibson....

Gibson has the loophole of having both Irish nationalities so yeah a stir there. He's the only one to really do it though AFAIK.

[roseboy64]

Originally Posted by aussie

BBC Sport - Football - Jack Wilshere called into England Under-21 squad

No issue with Wilshire being relegated to under 21 for now. But Richards certainly has to be in the senior squad based on his performace vs Liverpool the other day - looked his old self. Johnson can't play RB again.

One decent performance from Richards doesn't make up for the rubbish he's done the last year or so. Would be a shocker if he's called up.

[aussie]

Originally Posted by roseboy64

As such FIFA has to give the go ahead for Arteta or Almunia or anyone with no British heritage or schooling to play for England or any Home Nation. To grant that it'd pretty much mean the disbandment of the national associations and to form a GB team as FIFA views the Home Nations as it does the Basques and the only reason the Home Nations continue as they are is through their history and the fact they don't pick foreign players.

No need to thank me for educating you. Do you still think I know nothing about football GF?

I see what you are saying rose, given just now i came across this about Arteta on wiki, which made my heart jump:

Originally Posted by quote

In 2010, several news reported that Arteta willing to received call-up from England,[7] however he is not eligible, as he is not a multi-nationality holder when he representing Spain U21.

Article 18

1. If a Player has more than one nationality, or if a Player acquires a new nationality, or if a Player is eligible to play for several representative teams due to nationality, he may, only once, request to change the Association for which he is eligible to play international matches to the Association of another country of which he holds nationality, subject to the following conditions:

(a) He has not played a match (either in full or in part) in an official competition at “A” international level [i.e. non-friendly] for his current Association [i.e. Spain for Arteta], and at the time of his first full or partial appearance in an international match in an official competition for his current Association [i.e. Spain for Arteta], he already had the nationality [i.e. British] of the representative team for which he wishes to play.

But at the same time i think you may be exaggerating slightly when you say..."To grant that it'd pretty much mean the disbandment of the national associations and to form a GB team as FIFA views the Home Nations as it does the Basques and the only reason the Home Nations continue as they are is through their history and the fact they don't pick foreign players".

Since if FIFA views the home nations as the they do the Basque's over in Spain. Then how did Marcos Senna get picked by Spain?. He didn't have spanish or basque home schooling or spanish heritage. Just gained Spanish residency & qualified to play for them.

But we shall see what happens, since there seems to be some confusion about this.

Originally Posted by roseboy64

One decent performance from Richards doesn't make up for the rubbish he's done the last year or so. Would be a shocker if he's called up.

Preferably yea, him having hame a string of solid performances would be better than just a one-off. But ENG have a crisis @ RB ATM with the incumbent (Johnson) being utter crap defensively. So its worth the risk i'd say, especially when you consider Richards did prove before last season he can defend well againts good players - something that Johnson never proved he can do before Capello picked him & he made a national embarassment of himself vs Germany, SMH.

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by roseboy64

As such FIFA has to give the go ahead for Arteta or Almunia or anyone with no British heritage or schooling to play for England or any Home Nation. To grant that it'd pretty much mean the disbandment of the national associations and to form a GB team as FIFA views the Home Nations as it does the Basques and the only reason the Home Nations continue as they are is through their history and the fact they don't pick foreign players.

Why would it?

What is the difference between that and Germany picking Poles or Spain and Portugal picking Brazilians?

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by aussie

Of course its not long term, its not as if we would be expecting him to be involved in the 2014 WC or something. Just the EURO 2012 qualifiers & tournament.

So the same bloke who 12 months ago himself said he didn't think he'd last more than 1 season you think is going to be around for another 2 years when he's not got the international breaks to give his body a rest?

[Ikki]

Originally Posted by Uppercut

Fair enough with Gerrard, but Torres has never been able to play anything close to a full season so I'm not having that. Saying you might have done better if Torres hadn't been injured a lot isn't far from saying you might have done better had Lucas not played **** a lot. Staying fit is a part of the game, one that Torres is particularly bad at, and that is always going to cost his team over the course of the season.

You're wrong. He has. In his first season at LFC he played a full season and scored 33 goals. In fact, the season in question was the first season he'd been out for a significant amount of time in his career.