I caught a bit of the match between England and Holland on a stream .See our U19s managed to fluke their way to the European semis thanks to two late goals: an injury time equaliser versus Johnny Frenchy and Austria converting an 87th minute pen to beat the Dutch.
Probably get our arses handed to us by Spain tho but.
Like a guy who scored a record number of goals for his club and regularly topped the goalscoring charts in England in the early-mid 00s?
Thats not going to make him a legend though, because when he's gone, he'll soon get forgot, give it 10 years and no one will care much for him, bar those who he performed for. Sure some will recall him, just like our generation recall players like Le Tissier..... He's not going to transcend more than that in my eyes, and thats why he's not going to be a legend.
Depends how high you set the bar. But I can say with confidence that Henry will thought of much, much more highly in twenty years than Gerd Muller is now. Whether you agree with their assessment or not, there's a decent chunk of people my age and younger who think Henry is the best player they've ever seen.
Henry was great, but he's not even the best player to have played for his club in these people's time- Bergkamp was better, IMO
Bergkamp's a tough player to compare with anyone else, it kinda depends how you define "better". There's something special about Bergkamp; he had moments of genius that couldn't have been done by anyone else in the history of the game. But I'd rather play against him than Henry. Jesus, it's not even close. The thought of playing Henry scares the **** out of me. He scored and set up an utterly obscene amount of goals.
Gerrard, easily. Even Sir Red Nose has said it and made comparisons. In fact, he was much more influential/important to his side and even more talented than them. But the problem with that kind of comparison is really the death of the box-to-box midfielder. Fewer and fewer teams play a 4-4-2 and few have two box-to-box midfielders these days. Even the ones like Gerrard and Lampard are more specialised rather than being all-rounders these days.
Don't think I would have ever considered Bergkamp to be in the top 3 players at any given time in his career whereas Henry was for a chunk of his. Personally, don't think it's even that close.
Agree, as aforesaid, his 02-03 season is something I haven't seen anyone get near. Not even the Ronaldo 42 goal season gets near it. He was the devil incarnate and destroyed defenses.
Who was better than him between, say, 97 and the early 00s?
I don't agree. Gerrard might have been more influential to Liverpool than those two to their clubs (debatable), but as midfielders I'd take Keane and Vieira everytime over Gerrard. Maybe I didn't watch enough of Gerrard before Benitez but I think he takes the over-ambitious option far too often to be a truly great CM.
